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Bluesky is having an odd little debate about use of the phrase "stochastic parrot" and how it appears to be the one phrase that just sends AI advocates into a rage, and I'm really torn, because while I'm in favor of making Ai advocates angry, I sincerely believe that parrots are capable of both understanding concepts and using language to intentionally communicate about their understandings of concepts. And I believe this is not true of LLMs
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I might be tempted to redirect the conversation if I were to be found on a site like that which I won’t, to a discussion of Microsoft efforts to make sure that the sexually explicit material that can be generated with their systems is faithful to the prompt. Maybe they should be asked to install the value of paying people in Africa slave wages to experience on trauma. Let them work through that.
Has anyone compared the intelligence measures for parrots and corvids?
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david revoy has been illustrating the concept of the "stochastic parrot"
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'I'm in favor of making Ai advocates angry,'
this really only makes you look like you debate in bad faith. maybe get someone to proof read or edit your work before publishing?
its a self own.
@mHtt IDK. I’m not a hardcore anti-AI person not an AI doomer or anything. I’ve found it useful for things. And I know people who use it I respect.
But the kind of person who goes around constantly trying to insert AI into every discussion and takes personal affront to even the mildest criticism of it is someone I’m ok with offending.
They have no interest in a discussion or nuance. They just want to shove their view in your face until you acquiesce.
@foobarsoft true AI would be named.
Humans, I believe are incapable of true AI.
If you watch the Animatrix their thesis is that humans create the circumstances for AI; humans create intelligent machines, who in turn create AI.
I personally think this is much more likely. This emergent technology I would describe as 'Automatic Interaction' fashioned with plagiarism finesse by trillion are marketing algorithms.
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I believe humans are creating a point in the kill chain that creates plausible deniability.
Send in a group of drones to kill a city of people. Blame the AI when things go bad.
That's what it's for, to remove accountability for killing.
@mHtt The name is marketing nonsense, but we’re stuck with it until (if) true artificial intelligence shows up.
As for your other point I don’t see that mattering. They don’t care now, they don’t need “AI” to blame, and I don’t think it being around makes a difference.
@mHtt found the stochastic parrot. Self-own, thou art that!
i believe it was meant to be from the verb "to parrot", used in the colloquial sense, rather than the animal. Or at least that's how I read it.
But I also understand how literal the internet can be. It's a little less accurate than "statistical text extruder", but a better analogy, imo.
@flipper my reading of it as well.
@jplebreton Gratuitous shout-out to the lyrebird. What a champ. Absolutely impressive (while utterly depressing to think about the implications of noise pollution and habitat loss that result in the stuff people seem to get most excited about)
Agree. LLM is a modern day player piano with a bigger drum.
Mynah Bird: This is fine
i am going to use the phrase 'stochastic parrot' in everything i write from now on.
thank you!
every stochastic parrot opportunity i get.
i'll make it my new online pen name.
there needs to be a hashtag
the things that come up that I apparently have to catch up on... to catch up, or not to catch up... Dead, that I'm so behind!
well, i think the "stochastic" part of the term takes care of that worry no?
@lilyyllyyllyly If LLMs understand concepts and can communicate about those concepts, and merely use stochastic methods to go about it, then that is just a description of what AI advocates actually believe about their product
have I been misunderstanding the phrase?
I've always read it as "parrot" being the verb (to mimic) and not like the actual animal.
@Plan_A_to_Y Same difference. The verb comes from a belief that parrots could never understand what they say.
Thing is, if you keep a pet like that - even budgies - you will notice that they may mimic sounds, but they don't mimic all sounds randomly in all situations. Their mimicry expresses a mood, and you can trace that back to the circumstances under which they learned the sound.
That does not mean they make sense of the words, but they do make sense.
*Fits a log-log curve to Apollo the parrot’s performance*: the pistachio singularity is at hand
like saying your blender is a mixologist, ffs
I recall Emily Bender saying the term comes from the idea of mindlessly parroting not parrots.
Parading a parroting parody?..
"I would say AI is a stochastic parrot but that would be insulting to parrots"
It's a dead parrot
i use “stochastic sycophants” and i think it’s:
- more accurate and descriptive
- cuter by the alliteration
@dan There are some awesome videos of parrots using YouTube to watch videos of other parrots.
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I've said for a long time that I consider the phrase an insult to actual parrots.
Parrots are cool, and intelligent. I'd be going ballistic if the phrase was something to do with ants/other hymenopterans because they are really fucking smart. Just a fun fact, through a process called "freeing the tongue", crows can speak like parrots. I fully intend to train a murder of crows to scream run and unleash them into mountains to terrify mountaineers
@sackofbones I always wondered if that raven poem was realistic
Yes! Parrots really are intelligent (in their own totally ruthless way).
I have a fairly good grasp of English and the phrase never made any sense to me. (What do you mean, "stochastic" and "parrot"? Parrots either are or they aren't. They don't pop into existence briefly and wink out, or you come in one morning and they're twice the size as yesterday. I had to find an explanation that said it referred to parroting 🙄 ) Plus, 'stochastic' isn't in most people's vocabularies.
Anyone who wants people to understand what they mean, call it autocomplete. Because that's what it _is_. Except it works on sentences and topics instead of single words.
And it does it with about as much insight, i.e. none, as you say. Like when you're trying to think of metempsychosis and it confidently tells you metamorphosis and you flunk your comparative religions term paper.
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I believe the stochastic modifier is carrying a lot of weight, making the parrot metaphorical
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@lilyyllyyllyly If LLMs understand concepts and can communicate about those concepts, and merely use stochastic methods to go about it, then that is just a description of what AI advocates actually believe about their product
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Slightly different interpretation: it's not referring to the animal, but to something that without thought or understanding repeats words or imitates actions.
Basically, definition #2: dictionary.com/browse/parrot
It's entertaining that our language has so thoroughly taking this word from an analogy to the animal to its own meaning, and one that probably isn't accurate for the animal at all... =]
PARROT Definition & Meaning | Dictionary.com
PARROT definition: any of numerous hook-billed, often brilliantly colored birds of the order Psittaciformes, as the cockatoo, lory, macaw, or parakeet, having the ability to mimic speech and often kept as pets.www.dictionary.com
an ability all the more impressive in parrots for the fact that no controlled study has been able to replicate the phenomenon in AI advocates
As an AI advocate, I don't understand why that would make anyone rage, a "stochastic parrot" is a perfect descriptor of most people.
I also want to add, this post is probably going to be a great example of people acting like stochastic parrots, yay self-demonstration.
@Newhereish Just say "I know you are but what am I?", it's faster.
In regards to why I don't just taunt "I know you are but what am I", that doesn't explicitly prove my argument. >>
P.S. Yes please block me, the less anti-AI slop I have on my timeline the happier I am.
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Great conversation and a free proactive block of a person with poor ethics, this thread has been a treat!
You can't separate ethics from the stochastic parrot discussion, if you use stochastic parrots you support climate change, deskilling people en masse, fascism, and the largest theft of workers' output in history. Get fucked slopsucker
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@Newhereish found the 'high-agency individual'
Emily Bender agrees with you; this is a common misreading of the paper.
Folks have also pointed out that this coinage is somewhat unfair to actual parrots who, for all I know, do have internal lives and do use their ability to mimic human speech with some kind of communicative intent. My best answer here is to say that (despite parrot in stochastic parrot being a noun), I am drawing not on the name of the bird directly but rather on the English verb to parrot, which means to repeat back without understanding.
@jedbrown Also spectrum.ieee.org/stochastic-parrot
What Emily Bender Really Meant by "Stochastic Parrots"
Five years later, its lead author revisits the paper in the age of ChatGPTGwendolyn Rak (IEEE Spectrum)
parrot = a bird showing individual intelligence. Hard agree with you.
Stochastic parrot = that added word isn’t a breed or narrowing ** Of Actual Parrots **; it’s a ‘not-really’ term. It’s like vegan leather or oat milk or … ok, I don’t like synthetic diamond, cuz chemically some are diamonds… uh… maybe silicone grout? A stochastic parrot is some thingy which _resembles_ a parrot.
(Offered entirely in hopes of tipping scales toward making AI fans stfu and stop anthropomorphizing their toys. I’m a fan of any tactic which gives them pause)
@cascheranno " A stochastic parrot is some thingy which _resembles_ a parrot"
So a drunk middle-aged man is a stochastic parrot.
@si_fuller c’mon, you just nailed twenty four hundred years of no. Plato defined Man as a featherless biped; Diogenes plucked a chicken and proclaimed : behold, a man!’
Other things that ramble like parrots exist. Like me. G’nite.
@cascheranno I love that story, because I've plucked chickens, it takes a really long time. A live one must be so much harder. And there probably weren't any chickens within easy reach. Diogenes' snappy rejoinder must have taken hours of prep work. They were probably talking about something completely different by the time he threw that poor abused hen at them.
@si_fuller the Diogenes stories are a tasty rabbit-hole. Contemporaries / Plato called him ‘Socrates Gone Mad.’
@cascheranno i think the idea is it is a parrot, or rather parroter (a thing-i-heard-repeater) which is stochastic in nature (large language models are literally stochastic in nature)
agreed; I even like ‘parroter’ to clarify this adjectival form is pseudo-__, or synthetic / resembling, but not a parrot.
Hmm. The pair seems not quite an oxymoron (but close).
After much search, the grammatical term seems to be Privative Adjective / Modifier. More examples: Kangaroo Court, stuffed animal, synthetic turf.
@cascheranno @mcc@mastodon.social a Stochastic parrot is a parrot that parrots talking points in order to spread anti-cockatoo sentiment among the parrot community.
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“I won because you gave up” certainly fits with their understanding of, well, everything.
That explains the current saga of @David Revoy with "Avian Intelligence", must be a node to the "stochastic parrot"
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Hopefully the phrase "stochastic errorists" will enrage "A.I." advocates, without insulting parrots.
Opinions from clanker fuckers are largely irrelevant so I tend to ignore what the AI bros say. 🤷🏾♂️
I agree, but “Stochastic parrot” is so much catchier than “stochastic lyric bird”.
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@meltedcheese TIL that this bird existed. WOW.
@Infoseepage Wild, huh? Chainsaws?
does that make the AI bubble "multilevel multilayer markov model marketing"?
I got a kick out of David Revoy's comic where he literalizes the parrot, calling it "Avian Intelligence" and it's just as obnoxious as existing AI "helpers" davidrevoy.com/article1163/authenticity-problem
well, that's why "stochastic".
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@lilyyllyyllyly If LLMs understand concepts and can communicate about those concepts, and merely use stochastic methods to go about it, then that is just a description of what AI advocates actually believe about their product
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also because real parrots are fucking awesome
@mathew @dan parrots can learn how to video call their friends on a phone and choose to do so when given the choice!! smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/scientists-taught-pet-parrots-to-video-call-each-other-and-the-birds-l…
Scientists Taught Pet Parrots to Video Call Each Other—and the Birds Loved It
Wild parrots tend to fly in flocks, but when kept as single pets, they may become lonely and boredSarah Kuta (Smithsonian Magazine)
After reading your post, I immediately started trying to find a better word. 'stochastic echo' maybe? Definitely not as punchy, and it still uses the word stochastic.
@jplebreton I mean, that's IMHO one of the major flaws of most research into animals' inner lives. That, and the inverse.
One particularly enraging study I read was about pain. Scientists electrocuted fish if they got near some place, and observed that when subjected to the electro shocks, the fish behaved much like humans would when subjected to pain. They also observed the fish avoided triggering the sensation.
Result? "It's inconclusive whether fish experience pain"
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@onelson Meat proxy is not a term for the LLM, it refers to the human (meat) copy/pasting text back and forth (proxy) between the LLM and e.g. emails.
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@WhiteCatTamer 'You're absolutely right! No one uses the phrase 'stochastic parrot' to describe AI advocates any more!
Here are some cool 'memes' people are using about AI adovcates —
-super geniuses
-AI kings
-overlords
-logarithmic owls
If you want me to write any more posts about how AI advocacy is the cool new thing, I can continue this conversation further'
-The pulse that guy has his finger on.
Here are some cool 'memes' people are using about AI adovcates —
-super geniuses
-AI kings
-overlords
-logarithmic owls
If you want me to write any more posts about how AI advocacy is the cool new thing, I can continue this conversation further'
-The pulse that guy has his finger on.
From what I understand, parrots don't mimic other sounds in the wild ( unlike the Lyre Bird) ie. reproducing any sound and in particular human speech is only done in captivity.
@jplebreton I get that you can't project human experience onto animals. But it's also true that "it behaves as if, but inconclusive" is pretty much a psychopath's response to other people.
So "cognition, but perhaps different" is a *massive* step, IMHO.
I Can't Believe It's Not As Smart As A Parrot
rolls right off the tongue
I think the term is not insulting to parrots; the “stochastic” part is the important part. Like something being as useful as a chocolate teapot. It doesn’t degrade teapots.
But also, “parrot” is the verb we have for mindless repetition, fair or not.
This is the same issue as using clown as a pajorative.
Clowns are hard working professionals doing a difficult job for little pay.
Parrots and the Corvids are very intelligent, more so than some people and many AI wonks.
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This is perhaps the biggest similarity with the fascists.
This is perhaps the biggest similarity with the fascists.
Petition to switch to "Stochastic Furby".
Stochastic echoing. There, solved. Now, where’s my cracker?
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Unpopular opinion: there is nothing magical about AI.
Simplified: It's just a bunch of tokenised data that goes through a couple score billion if-statements with something analogous to a bunch of single-instruction-multiple-data 8-bit operations, resulting in an output of a bunch of tokenised data. And even that is done in a loop.
Wake me up when the weighted if-statements have analogue parameters, can manage multiple simultaneous dynamic inputs, and can be powered by a Mars bar and a mug of coffee. 😅
@jskists "It's just a bunch of tokenised data that goes through a couple score billion if-statements with something analogous to a bunch of single-instruction-multiple-data 8-bit operations, resulting in an output of a bunch of tokenised data. And even that is done in a loop."
Yes, but— it is immune from laws. And that makes it more powerful than a conventional computer program, in fact arguably more powerful than a human
I agree with you. Its use (the training, as well as the application) shouldn't be immune from laws.
LLMs don't hang upsidedown on the clothes line just for fun. Parrots do.
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@leeloo yeah, that's correct. I realize now that the rest of the conversation was targeted at the LLM itself.
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The courts don't care much for animal legal rights. Previously litigated:
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They're just angry because they can't pronounce "stochastic".
@wouldinotcallmyselfahumanbeing Ha! That’s a good one!! 🤣
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En esta era de la inteligencia artificial, es urgente distinguir el arte humano de lo que producen las máquinas. Existe una diferencia ontológica, incluso antes que estética, entre el arte y lo que una máquina puede generar mediante cálculos estadísticos a partir de millones de imágenes ajenas. A los algoritmos les falta la chispa de lo humano. Por eso, la Iglesia desea renovar la alianza con los artistas y las instituciones culturales: una alianza para custodiar lo humano.
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can't argue with the numbers.
would be nice to see NT, XP and ME on there as well but that's probably difficult because excel would interpret the values as dates
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@xenontechs sweet dates 🤤
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Using medieval Roman numerals, we can argue that
XP = 390
NT = 0160
ME = 1250
What a fine vista.
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windows peaked at 2000
Ah, the wonderful Win 3.11 Windows for Workgroups overlooked again… running on DOS 6.22 of course
@photovince so... does this mean Windows is half as much as DOS?
@cousinnalesk surely, Win95 still had a DOS foundation… that must have been DOS 47.5
if it is in a plot, it is true
its hard to look out of 2000 Windows at once
but I agree Windows has peaked
and server 2003, 2008, 2008 R2, 2012, 2012 R2, 2016, 2019, 2022 and 2025? 😆
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I have to eonder where NT, XP, and Vista are...
I mean, it was peak windows for a reason
windows 2 was pretty good.
after all we’ve been through you still left ME out.
no way it's 98, 92, or nothin
obviously should be a log scale on the vertical axis
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This is the funniest thing I've seen today, possibly ever
My theory is they're gonna release so many versions of Windows that they will encode an audio sample with a message
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@SomeVeganCheeseIsOk naa, the Sashi account seems to be satire and jokes mostly (as far as I can see without an X account myself)
@leberschnitzel that's much less reassuring than I expected, but thank you.
@Jocelynephiliac @Cat 🐈🥗 (D.Burch) @Dgar I'm forking ELIZA and slapping a version number of 86.2 on it.
Suck it OpenAI. 🙃
windows 9 must be the best ever. You can't find anything negativ in the web about win 9 !!
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@Dgar Where does XP fit on this graph?
They're nearly as bad as DICE.
when I look at this why do I hear Master Shake from ATHF saying "its two thousand! You cant compete with that!"
Lacks 2003, 2008 too.
I wonder where Windows 11 will end up on the chart. 😯
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Hi everyone! Welcome to another Bridgy Fed status update. Since last time, we’ve been focusing on a big new project that we’re almost ready to start beta testing, but we also managed to ship some smaller features and improvements:
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Las tiendas Ekono han estado trayendo decoración navideña desde SETIEMBRE, dizque "para los ultrafans de la Navidad", y ahora que caigo en cuenta, ni Maduro se atrevió a tanto (él movió la Navidad "apenas" a Octubre)
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Una pista: Fedle aparentemente acepta extranjerismos.
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The america.gov thing is an embarrassment but the middle of the rant about US government web sites being worse than the private sector reminded me of how much I appreciate the gov.uk infrastructure.
It’s designed to work well with low-bandwidth devices. It works well on large and small screens. It runs in ancient browsers. It has a consistent interface. The buttons are big and clear. It doesn’t use colour contrast that’s problematic for colour-blind users. It works well with accessibility tools. It has its own extended markdown variant that captures semantic markup for common things so that they can be usefully exposed structurally to other tools.
Private-sector web sites could learn a lot from it.
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If you've got some free time on your hands one of the best things you can do is to learn a language. It doesn't matter which language it is, learning any language makes the world a smaller place and brings you closer together with people you wouldn't otherwise speak to.
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I still drink a Mirinda every now and then
@Qbitzerre I have wanted to learn more about the culture of my ancestors who immigrated from Gibber.
and especially good for the grey matter apparently.
tlhIngan Hol Dajatlh'a'?
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c/SillyLittleWebsites - No ads, no registration, just fun games and interactive web pages.
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Remember when you could just go to a web page and see a fun thing or silly little website? You didn’t have register and verify your email, or close a bunch of ads, or deal with pop ups, pop overs, and dark ui patterns? Here’s a collection of silly little websites: games, productivity apps, interesting info, or surreal art projects.
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Does this include non game like throw back sites? Cause I've seen some pretty neat, nostalgic ones on neocities.
And putting some rules in the sidebar is a good idea. Because I could've looked there lol. But I subbed, this is a cool community!
Yes, it's meant to be more than games. It's more of a "here's a cool thing on the web you can just check out immediately without having to verify your email or close a bunch of popups first" kind of web pages.
Ohh prefect! Next time I see a fun one, I'll share.
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Some Mastodon servers have been seeing sudden spikes in remote media storage over the past few months, caused by bots crawling public pages and forcing Mastodon to re-download old media.
I wrote a short post on what's happening and how to reduce it:
masto.host/sudden-spikes-in-remote-media-storage/
Sudden Spikes In Remote Media Storage | Masto.host
Masto.host was built from the ground up to make running a Mastodon instance easy.Masto.host
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Thanks for info. Complete.
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@kis lo de pixelfeed que te pasaba
@CleefHanger vaya, a ver si se arregla pronto y los bots dejan de dar por culo. Gracias
Done. Thank you.
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can't Mastodon serve remote images automatically instead of proxying them?
@crystalmoon it could technically, but then your browser would load every image straight from the remote server. That leaks your IP to whoever runs it, and they could swap the image for something malicious or something else entirely. Mastodon downloads and re-processes the media and saves it locally to avoid that sort of problem. Also, it would hammer small servers when a post goes viral. It just costs storage.
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it should be considered that some servers (like mine) have a cache dropping policy that does not refetch media. Posts e.g. > 1w become impossible to view completely unless sniffing the JSON from a browser
@crystalmoon I wonder if serving remote images for unauthenticated users would be a good compromise. It seems like some people think the same according to GitHub.
Either that or more and more servers will decide to not serve content unauthenticated users in general 
Oh that's why!
One question, I want to build a social media aggregator, where I will show posts from X, Mastodon, Threads (only federated accounts) and BlueSky.
How ethical, and proper would this be, since I would use Mastodon API?
@gjorgji_vasileski Using the API itself is fine, that's what it's there for. The tricky part is consent. A lot of people on the fediverse really don't like their posts being pulled into other platforms without asking, and there's been a fair bit of backlash against projects that did it.
If you go ahead, I'd make it opt-in, or at the very least respect people's "discoverable"/noindex settings and #nobot tags, and make sure deletes and edits carry over. Also worth checking instances rules.
Excellent, this is very good information. In my initial demo, I plan to pull posts only from artist that make mini comics, and hopefully they will not mind, but I will put a feature to opt out in case they don't want it. This is because I really enjoy them on Mastodon
Also, the data won't be persistent at all, I plan max of 30 days retention, so if your post is older than 30 days, it won't reapear, maybe only viral posts could be kept let's say more.
Thank you very much for the info
@gjorgji_vasileski Happy to help! Just a small reminder: I said opt-in, not opt-out 😄 With a handful of artists it's easy to just ask them first. Good luck with it!
I will make the demo only with 10 accounts at first, they will be all asked directly .. I meant opt out, since eventually I want to do it on scale, however for Mastodon, I might keep it manually.
In the past, projects that went with "opt-out" features got a very negative reception. Many people do not consider that to be consent. You'd be much safer restricting it to accounts that actively opt in.
@EverydayMoggie thank you for the advice
how about blocking crawlers, changing ToS and billing the crawlers for the attempt per query?
@DBG3D no nos ha pasado, pero también es verdad que masto.es guarda la multimedia durante un periodo más largo que el habitual para otros servidores
oh THAT explains it. Thanks for the note.
@tamazon I don't know if you've seen this already, but it might be of interest
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When a highly precise electric current is provided, collagen can become temporarily malleable. If all goes well, this might be the basis for the eyesight therapies of the future. sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/09/260927034004.htm #ShareTheGoodNewsToo
Forget LASIK: Safer, cheaper vision correction without lasers or incisions
Scientists are developing a possible alternative to LASIK that reshapes the cornea without cutting it or using a laser.ScienceDaily
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Gente de #CostaRica, por acá están buscando la ubicación exacta del antiguo "Centro de Estudios Sociales Germinal". La documentación que se tiene indica que quedaba en el distrito de La Merced en San José, en el 2° piso de La Rambla (pero no aclaran cuál Rambla). Se agradece cualquier información adicional.
Got a new query for any Spanish speakers, as you were all so helpful earlier! Would absolutely love to find the location of this building, the Centro de Estudios Germinal in San José, Costa Rica, in 1913. Any assistance would be much appreciated!
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