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in reply to James Smith 💾
It's a shame that this is, by necessity and definition, a placeholder project - the only way to truly divest from DHH would be to not use his code at all, and that generally means rewriting everything away from Ruby. But, as you already said, that'd be a monumental undertaking with little to no substantial benefit other than the divestment itself.
in reply to James Smith 💾

@freya

You have to be a kinda pompous ass at the very least to have the ambition that your puke is better than anyone elses and push it as the defacto next big thing.

That they turn out to be meglomaniac complete and utter bastards is just a variation on a theme.

You're looking for a real rare diamond that's both ambitious enough to push hard, and humble enough to grow a fair community with positive politics.

in reply to James Smith 💾
nice energy to see ! I would be personnally completely useless as I don't know much about Ruby. I'm just a humble sysadmin who has to maintain Rails app up to date (apps that I like and that my company relies uppon) but I really despise having to endure this man being a part of all that.
in reply to James Smith 💾

If you are forking anyway, would you be open to hearing the case why a network service copyleft like AGPLv3 might be useful?

I'm not part of the Rails or Ruby community, so I don't want to intrude, but if there is an appropriate way to make the pitch, I'd like to.

Do you think the new community would be interested in it?

(Biggest reason, frankly: discourage dhh from just taking your work back to his "upstream").

Cc: @richardfontana

in reply to James Smith 💾

Oh, thanks, I just asked again elsewhere in thread as I hadn't seen this reply yet. I'll put it as an urgent TODO for myself to join the governance channel.

Would it be helpful if a I wrote a blog post introducing the idea to share there first? I am just hesitant to jump into a community that I otherwise have no connection to and start making governance suggestions.

Cc: @richardfontana

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in reply to Bradley M. Kühn

@bkuhn @cwebber @richardfontana

I don't speak in any capacity for the rails fork (but I do hope them success), nor do I have a project with a sufficient user base.

But I would love to see a LAGPL variant. I think that would be very useful in many situations. As a pragmatic argument against the 'open core' style licences.

As an outsider, a fork adopting the fully AGPL I think is likely to hamper that fork, rather than boost it.