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You have my sword. And my bow. And my axe!
(and mostly, my support)
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You could have called it MOOOOONNNNN though
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fortune.com/2026/07/27/shopify-ceo-voting-rights-stripping-americans-19th-century/
Why did a $154 billion CEO just endorse stripping most Americans of voting rights—and taking us back to the 19th century? | Fortune
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You have to be a kinda pompous ass at the very least to have the ambition that your puke is better than anyone elses and push it as the defacto next big thing.
That they turn out to be meglomaniac complete and utter bastards is just a variation on a theme.
You're looking for a real rare diamond that's both ambitious enough to push hard, and humble enough to grow a fair community with positive politics.
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Hmmn.. intertwingly.net/blog/2025/10/04/Re-Retired.html
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in reply to James Smith 💾 • • •If you are forking anyway, would you be open to hearing the case why a network service copyleft like AGPLv3 might be useful?
I'm not part of the Rails or Ruby community, so I don't want to intrude, but if there is an appropriate way to make the pitch, I'd like to.
Do you think the new community would be interested in it?
(Biggest reason, frankly: discourage dhh from just taking your work back to his "upstream").
Cc: @richardfontana
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in reply to James Smith 💾 • • •Oh, thanks, I just asked again elsewhere in thread as I hadn't seen this reply yet. I'll put it as an urgent TODO for myself to join the governance channel.
Would it be helpful if a I wrote a blog post introducing the idea to share there first? I am just hesitant to jump into a community that I otherwise have no connection to and start making governance suggestions.
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Would that mean that people using (ie consuming the libraries) the fork would also fall under the terms of the AGPL and need to publish their code?
Bradley M. Kühn
in reply to Chris Ellis • • •fork community is interested,I'd go for it.
Where's the appropriate place to discuss officially? I don't wanna interlope on (eg) your Matrix channel unless license talk is welcome.
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Chris Ellis
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I don't speak in any capacity for the rails fork (but I do hope them success), nor do I have a project with a sufficient user base.
But I would love to see a LAGPL variant. I think that would be very useful in many situations. As a pragmatic argument against the 'open core' style licences.
As an outsider, a fork adopting the fully AGPL I think is likely to hamper that fork, rather than boost it.