I should make a list of FOSS apps, projects, and services that have Fediverse accounts and don't code with AI, then strike them from the list with a big ELIMINATED notice if they do start drinking the slop kool-aid.
EDIT: Made one fedidevs.com/s/MTA2OA/
Honorary mentions
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in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •So far I know of...
@Codeberg
@elementary
@guix โฑ๏ธ
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Wait...
vicente โ
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in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •LisPi
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •@Codeberg @elementary @guix I have bad news about Guix.
lol that last one
Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch)
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in reply to LisPi • • •LisPi
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in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •LisPi
in reply to tusharhero • • •@tusharhero It seems, at most, for now, a reprieve.
"Oh but it'd also block models purely based on public domain content" yes, that's a feature. Even absent copyright and ethical problems (lol good luck), the functional problems remain unchanged.
Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch)
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •โ ๏ธ ELIMINATED@guix
Edit: UNELIMINATED... for now
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in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •manchicken
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch)
in reply to manchicken • • •Wilfried Klaebe
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •Should be disqualified for using Xitter...
@catsalad @manchicken
manchicken
in reply to Wilfried Klaebe • • •Wilfried Klaebe
in reply to manchicken • • •Still using Xitter in 2026 means being OK with supporting Musk.
@manchicken @catsalad
manchicken
in reply to Wilfried Klaebe • • •@wonka One of the primary reasons monopoly and oligarchy are so harmful is because once they get to that point it is impossible to fully avoid them.
Our 401ks probably make money for Musk, and I donโt think thereโs much any of us can do to change that. As we establish our own positions, we should make sure weโre keeping in mind that nobody gets a say in most of this, and that Elon is now his own systemic problem needing a systemic solution.
manchicken
in reply to manchicken • • •@wonka I donโt think we can create positive social change by canceling people or projects based solely on the use of a social media platform.
It also may be a good idea to note that most of the handles on Twitter bridges are dormant or bots, especially with many Twitter users leaving Twitter not having the ability to delete the bridge user. You may be righteously canceling someone based on an abandoned bridge handle.
ziglang.org/news/0.11.0-postponed-again/
The Upcoming Release Postponed Two More Weeks and Lacks Async Functions โก Zig Programming Language
ziglang.orgmanchicken
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •Firefly Zero (game console)
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •add me, please. i'm a FOSS AI-free game console :)
Home page: fireflyzero.com/
Source code: github.com/firefly-zero
AI policy: docs.fireflyzero.com/internal/ai/
Firefly Zero
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inamruzui
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •vulpine labs won't touch llms
We know because we help run it
Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch)
in reply to inamruzui • • •Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch)
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •@Kuniti_shino @vulpinelabs Well... It would be if I could add it. I'll put it in the honorable mentions section, at least!
Vulpine Labs Inc.
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Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch)
in reply to Vulpine Labs Inc. • • •Tournesol ๐ป
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch)
in reply to Tournesol ๐ป • • •Tournesol ๐ป
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •Mistress Remilia
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •Aika: Aika
fossil.cyberia9.orgCat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch)
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •Oh nice! Tenacity is on Fedi @tenacity
codeberg.org/ethical-foss/open-slopware#digital-audio-workstations
open-slopware
Codeberg.orgAA
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •SackOfBones (any/all)
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •Sophie OP
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •Acc: @haiku
Non-sloppyness: see top of haiku-os.org/get-haiku/r1beta6/release-notes/
R1/beta6 โ Release Notes
Haiku ProjectCarlos Solรญs
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • •Cassandrich
in reply to Carlos Solรญs • • •LisPi likes this.
Cassandrich
in reply to Cassandrich • • •LOL why am I not surprised? Get fucked.
LisPi
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in reply to Carlos Solรญs • • •Carlos Solรญs
in reply to Nullstring ๐ดโโ ๏ธ • •Nullstring ๐ดโโ ๏ธ
in reply to Carlos Solรญs • • •@csolisr look how desperately you feel like you need to qualify and justify your lack of conviction lol, by your own measure there are plenty of places for you and no one here wants your cult bullshit disguised as "concern"
just fly off into the wind like your integrity
Nullstring ๐ดโโ ๏ธ
in reply to Nullstring ๐ดโโ ๏ธ • • •@csolisr "im merely a fatalist" no, you're not, youre out here actively discouraging people with more self esteem and personal conviction than you because you are mired in shame for lacking the same quality. you need everyone to be in the mud with you because you yourself lack the strength of will to not have climbed in to begin with.
where is your heart, your will, what do you do with your power? surrender?! pathetic. disgusting. permanent mute.
Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch)
Unknown parent • • •Freeeeeeeeeeeeee
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •Alexia
in reply to Freeeeeeeeeeeeee • • •@freeplay@catsalad
No, our point isn't to shame projects that use AI, and rather to highlight those which don't.
See starlightnet.work/posts/the-no-ai-list.html which goes over why I started the list and what the approach/philosophy behind it is
the-no-ai-list.html
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Alexia
in reply to Alexia • • •@freeplay@catsalad
Historically, the projects that got removed from the list fell into one of two categories
- Projects which's ban depended purely on licensing or was a temporary measure (maybe QEMU or OpenJDK in the future)
- Projects which had a policy discussion wherein people which use AI pushed for a more lenient policy (think bevy)
other cases are rare, moreso exceptions than the norm
Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch)
in reply to Alexia • • •Veronica Olsen
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •@alexia @freeplay
Hi, I saw my project was on the list. I just want to clarify that novelWriter does not accept generated content, for much the same reasons as others (licensing) and also because it's usually crap code and we don't want it. But our policy isn't strictly No-AI in that we don't say you cannot use AI assistants in your code editor. On narrow scope edits these tools mostly just replicate/mirror existing code (hard to check), and they also have non-coding use cases.
Veronica Olsen
in reply to Veronica Olsen • • •@alexia @freeplay
We have an internal AI policy in our project, but I just posted a public one for clarification.
Personally, I'm very critical of the AI industry, so I try to set a policy that is actually enforceable in practice. But I'm immersed in this technology at work whether I want to or not, and for all its problems it is helpful for *some* things.
viq
in reply to Alexia • • •@freeplay @catsalad
borgmatic/AGENTS.md at main
projects.torsion.orgviq
in reply to viq • • •@freeplay @catsalad
Alexia
in reply to viq • • •@viq@freeplay@catsalad
RE: borgmatic
don't think so! this still clearly says
Please do not use AI agents to modify this codebase.Weirdly enough it then...still lists out interesting parts of the codebase?? but I think I can write that off as an oddity more than anything
RE: readeck
sure why not :)
if ya can show me where their policy is ofc
Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch)
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in reply to Alexia • • •@freeplay @catsalad
Freeeeeeeeeeeeee
in reply to Alexia • • •ARGVMI~1.PIF
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •It doesn't have any โeliminatedโ notices, butโฆ codeberg.org/brib/slopfree-software-index
See also this list of projects that *do* contain AI-generated code: codeberg.org/ethical-foss/open-slopware
slopfree-software-index
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in reply to GIMP • • •Kien
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in reply to Kien • • •Taggart
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •Just found this: Fork of KPXC without LLM commits: codeberg.org/ChiPass/ChiPass
Also, this is the opposite of what you asked for, but many entries have alternatives.
codeberg.org/ethical-foss/open-slopware
open-slopware
Codeberg.orgCat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch)
in reply to Taggart • • •@mttaggart Yes, and I really appreciate all the work @whitequark put into this!
There is no dedicated ChiPass fediverse account, but it would gladly be on my list if it was.
Taggart
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Unknown parent • • •diana ๐ณ๏ธโโง๏ธ๐ฆ๐ฑ
Unknown parent • • •@lcamtuf
I remember that very morning in September when AOL started flooding the UseNet Newsgroups with ...umm... slop. The community never recovered.
We can do this. We must do this. The last stand against billionaires and their slop.
Superball โ๏ธ
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in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •OS/1337had an account but that got made useless by some power-trippin' modโฆSel
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in reply to Vulture • • •0x0
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •@roko_basilisk
Jeroen Baert
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •Bonkers
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •well, I looked into Forgejo as a potential base for my project, but there are over 2k open issues in their repo, and some of them are over two years old. Honestly, the only way for them to keep up would be employing a clanker.
My project would require new features in it, but there's no chance they would be implemented within Forgejo, and myself I'm bad at golang.
I'll probably implement it from scratch, using Claude as a coder, as I don't have a budget to hire a full time developer (it's not even a commercial project).
0x0
in reply to Bonkers • • •@bonkers
> I'll probably implement it from scratch, using Claude as a coder,
Wrong thread much?
@catsalad
Bonkers
in reply to 0x0 • • •happyborg
in reply to Bonkers • • •Correction, haters of tech fascism and it's resultant silent genocide. Time to open your mind fella.
@0x0 @catsalad
hipgnose
in reply to Bonkers • • •@bonkers this doesn't make any sense, in any way.
It's like seen how many open issues Chromium have and stop using the browser based on it.
(You should stop for other reasons, but it's not the case)
Bonkers
in reply to hipgnose • • •hipgnose
in reply to Bonkers • • •Elton Cora (Honorary)
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •I absolutely love that you did this, thank you so much.
As is the nature of social dynamics, the projects who breach trust are the ones that get the most attention. And it is right that they get it, but a steady stream of disappointment is exhausting.
Seeing this all combined in one place tickled a circuit in my brain that hasnโt been active since the creative and the weird and the optimistic started embracing the web in the late nineties.
Thank you!
kjvee
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •AerynOS ? @/AerynOS@hachyderm.io
@/novelwriter@fosstodon.org
Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch)
in reply to kjvee • • •Duke of Germany ๐ซ
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •Suggestion for the list: @OBSProject
(They have an anti-AI coding policy, see mastodon.gamedev.place/@duke_of_germany/117316316603616893 )
@catsalad
Duke of Germany ๐ซ (@duke_of_germany@mastodon.gamedev.place)
Duke of Germany ๐ซ (Gamedev Mastodon)Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch)
in reply to Duke of Germany ๐ซ • • •Carlos (๋ช ์ค)
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •I would differentiate between using AI vs using what these losers call โAgentic AIโ which is nothing more than neglecting your own agency.
I use multiline autocomplete, a chat tab as a search on steroids and targeted medium-sized function/block generation. All powered by local models.
And I donโt think Iโm using โAIโ in a way that wasnโt possible 10 years ago already. And this didnโt hurt software development nor the planet nor my cognitive skills.
A doubt: Iโm developing a Grammarly alternative that uses rules + local LLMs. But with the aforementioned workflow, do I qualify for the list?
0x0
in reply to Carlos (๋ช ์ค) • • •You're skipping the legal and environmental aspects of using LLMs.
@catsalad
Carlos (๋ช ์ค)
in reply to 0x0 • • •locally? And trained predictively only on my own codebases?
I donโt this so
happyborg
in reply to Carlos (๋ช ์ค) • • •@iscarlosmolero yeh, sorry even local, open weights etc are a problem.
Where do they come from, does knowing you use #localAI help normalise it, encourage other uses (with harmful effects).
I won't argue because even if you are the one person who's #LLM use genuinely isn't doing direct harm, do you want to risk secondary harm of helping tech fascism and the inevitable genocide that will flow from it? Have you read how it is inherently fascist tech?
Food for you to chew on.
@0x0 @catsalad
Carlos (๋ช ์ค)
in reply to happyborg • • •I donโt think youโre understanding me.
I trained my own 1-3b models to do autocomplete and some for web browsing and retrieval.
In any case, Iโm open to discuss the possible dangers even of this approach.
loadingโฆ HAC (he/him)
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •#fonass
vrtrahan
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •Chimera linux? They are highly critical regarding high-quality code to the point of using a free-bsd userland and designing their custom ecosystem around dinit, so I wouldn't be surprised if they are anti-AI-slop.
They even created a rather high-performace build and packaging system...
Claudius Link
Unknown parent • • •Followed by Sloptober
Scott Murray
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •Great list?
Maybe to add to the list: @littlefedi_official
Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch)
in reply to Scott Murray • • •Kumar McMillan
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •Poxviridรฆ
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •I'll consider switching to it next time I break my Debian
Krzysztof Sakrejda ๐ณ๏ธโโง๏ธ ๐ดโโ
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •there's mastodon.tedomum.net/@deuxfleurs
They're the ones who made garage among other things
Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch)
Unknown parent • • •@rotsaruckz63 Tis a shame about Pixelfed ๐ซค
mastodon.gamedev.place/@antimundo/117338493301655253
infosec.exchange/@thepwnicorn/117340986598165441
Antimundo
2026-09-26 17:21:58
Dan (He/Him)
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •Firefly III
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch)
in reply to Firefly III • • •Yorik van Havre
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •Firefly III
in reply to Yorik van Havre • • •Tris
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •tmw ๐
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •do i see KDE on the list? i am not sure about that right now...
(kinda relatedly but not the same, this site exists and has fedi links for many people as opposed to projects, which is cool, but it's hard to tell what project(s) they're associated with
handcraftedcode.org/ )
We write code by hand: We use Natural Intelligence to build software.
handcraftedcode.orgNikhil ๐ง
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •paculino
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •Right now, it's looking like curl and sql adjacent things will be the hardest to address. There are alternatives though, and I'm currently using preslop versions.
open-slopware
Codeberg.orgPrincipia
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lertsenem
in reply to Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) • • •Maybe you could put the ones eliminated too, maybe with something like a red cross? Because it's difficult to know if an app isn't there because it uses genAI, or only because you missed it.
Which leads to my question: does @gotosocial uses genAI? I don't think so, but you never know these days.
VANTABlack
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in reply to Jay Grant ๐ณ๏ธโโง๏ธ • • •Jay Grant ๐ณ๏ธโโง๏ธ
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