I should make a list of FOSS apps, projects, and services that have Fediverse accounts and don't code with AI, then strike them from the list with a big ELIMINATED notice if they do start drinking the slop kool-aid.

EDIT: Made one fedidevs.com/s/MTA2OA/

Honorary mentions
infosec.exchange/@catsalad/117341552145650963


Some honorary slop-free mentions (only missing due to accounts not set as discoverable)

@appmanager
@librewolf
@littlefedi_official
@Nicolium
@polyphonychat
@polyproto
@readeck
@snowdrop


Esta entrada fue editada (domingo, 27 de septiembre de 2026, 7:53)
in reply to tusharhero

@tusharhero It seems, at most, for now, a reprieve.

"Oh but it'd also block models purely based on public domain content" yes, that's a feature. Even absent copyright and ethical problems (lol good luck), the functional problems remain unchanged.

in reply to Wilfried Klaebe

@wonka One of the primary reasons monopoly and oligarchy are so harmful is because once they get to that point it is impossible to fully avoid them.

Our 401ks probably make money for Musk, and I don’t think there’s much any of us can do to change that. As we establish our own positions, we should make sure we’re keeping in mind that nobody gets a say in most of this, and that Elon is now his own systemic problem needing a systemic solution.

in reply to manchicken

@wonka I don’t think we can create positive social change by canceling people or projects based solely on the use of a social media platform.

It also may be a good idea to note that most of the handles on Twitter bridges are dormant or bots, especially with many Twitter users leaving Twitter not having the ability to delete the bridge user. You may be righteously canceling someone based on an abandoned bridge handle.

ziglang.org/news/0.11.0-postponed-again/

in reply to Cat 🐈🥗 (D.Burch)

add me, please. i'm a FOSS AI-free game console :)

Home page: fireflyzero.com/
Source code: github.com/firefly-zero
AI policy: docs.fireflyzero.com/internal/ai/

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in reply to Cat 🐈🥗 (D.Burch)
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@Kuniti_shino @vulpinelabs Well... It would be if I could add it. I'll put it in the honorable mentions section, at least!
in reply to Cat 🐈🥗 (D.Burch)

Oh nice! Tenacity is on Fedi @tenacity

codeberg.org/ethical-foss/open-slopware#digital-audio-workstations

in reply to Freeeeeeeeeeeeee

@freeplay@catsalad

No, our point isn't to shame projects that use AI, and rather to highlight those which don't.

See starlightnet.work/posts/the-no-ai-list.html which goes over why I started the list and what the approach/philosophy behind it is

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in reply to Alexia

@freeplay@catsalad
Historically, the projects that got removed from the list fell into one of two categories

- Projects which's ban depended purely on licensing or was a temporary measure (maybe QEMU or OpenJDK in the future)
- Projects which had a policy discussion wherein people which use AI pushed for a more lenient policy (think bevy)

other cases are rare, moreso exceptions than the norm

in reply to viq

@viq@freeplay@catsalad

RE: borgmatic
don't think so! this still clearly says Please do not use AI agents to modify this codebase.
Weirdly enough it then...still lists out interesting parts of the codebase?? but I think I can write that off as an oddity more than anything

RE: readeck

sure why not :)
if ya can show me where their policy is ofc

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in reply to Alexia

i'm wondering how you see this: is it meaningful that borgmatic is ai-free, when it's basically a wrapper for borg backup which is very tainted?

@freeplay @catsalad @viq

in reply to viq

Don't strawman, and don't act contrarian.

There's a huge difference between a data backup tool whose entire purpose is to call another backup tool (which implements the core functionality and determines data integrity) more conveniently/automatically, and a program being constructed using a compiler/interpreter and standard library.

Also, i asked @alexia for her perspective, you don't need to answer for her.

in reply to Outfrost

@outfrost@freeplay@catsalad

that is meaningful yes; we don't consider dependencies or upstreams unless something is a soft-fork for practicality reasons

it's not about whether or not the stack is "pure", it's about presenting values

in reply to Cat 🐈🥗 (D.Burch)

It doesn't have any “eliminated” notices, but… codeberg.org/brib/slopfree-software-index

See also this list of projects that *do* contain AI-generated code: codeberg.org/ethical-foss/open-slopware

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in reply to Cat 🐈🥗 (D.Burch)

Just found this: Fork of KPXC without LLM commits: codeberg.org/ChiPass/ChiPass

Also, this is the opposite of what you asked for, but many entries have alternatives.

codeberg.org/ethical-foss/open-slopware

in reply to Cat 🐈🥗 (D.Burch)
Honest question. Is there a way a company could redeem itself, and would there be a process for granting them a place in the list? Not that I am at all aware of or nominating any candidates, just wondering if it had been considered in addition to requirements for removal.
in reply to Cat 🐈🥗 (D.Burch)

well, I looked into Forgejo as a potential base for my project, but there are over 2k open issues in their repo, and some of them are over two years old. Honestly, the only way for them to keep up would be employing a clanker.

My project would require new features in it, but there's no chance they would be implemented within Forgejo, and myself I'm bad at golang.

I'll probably implement it from scratch, using Claude as a coder, as I don't have a budget to hire a full time developer (it's not even a commercial project).

in reply to hipgnose
@hipgnose but I don't need new features in Chromium or Golang if I decide to use them for a project. Forgejo misses certain features that someone has to implement. Looking at their backlog, I'm sure my features will never get implemented there.
in reply to Cat 🐈🥗 (D.Burch)

I absolutely love that you did this, thank you so much.

As is the nature of social dynamics, the projects who breach trust are the ones that get the most attention. And it is right that they get it, but a steady stream of disappointment is exhausting.

Seeing this all combined in one place tickled a circuit in my brain that hasn’t been active since the creative and the weird and the optimistic started embracing the web in the late nineties.

Thank you!

in reply to Cat 🐈🥗 (D.Burch)

Suggestion for the list: @OBSProject

(They have an anti-AI coding policy, see mastodon.gamedev.place/@duke_of_germany/117316316603616893 )

@catsalad

in reply to Cat 🐈🥗 (D.Burch)

I would differentiate between using AI vs using what these losers call “Agentic AI” which is nothing more than neglecting your own agency.

I use multiline autocomplete, a chat tab as a search on steroids and targeted medium-sized function/block generation. All powered by local models.

And I don’t think I’m using “AI” in a way that wasn’t possible 10 years ago already. And this didn’t hurt software development nor the planet nor my cognitive skills.

A doubt: I’m developing a Grammarly alternative that uses rules + local LLMs. But with the aforementioned workflow, do I qualify for the list?

in reply to Carlos (명준)

@iscarlosmolero yeh, sorry even local, open weights etc are a problem.

Where do they come from, does knowing you use #localAI help normalise it, encourage other uses (with harmful effects).

I won't argue because even if you are the one person who's #LLM use genuinely isn't doing direct harm, do you want to risk secondary harm of helping tech fascism and the inevitable genocide that will flow from it? Have you read how it is inherently fascist tech?

Food for you to chew on.

@0x0 @catsalad

in reply to happyborg

I don’t think you’re understanding me.

I trained my own 1-3b models to do autocomplete and some for web browsing and retrieval.

In any case, I’m open to discuss the possible dangers even of this approach.

in reply to Carlos (명준)

@iscarlosmolero I don't have time to get into the detail but I'm not sure it matters...

And maybe, as I said, you are unique IDK, but even saying "I use local LLM models (I trained)" can normalise and encourage other -harmful- LLM use because few will understand any difference with what you do.

@0x0 @catsalad

in reply to happyborg

I got you perfectly, the LLM acronym and the normalization of its use is encouraging people to use them irresponsibly.

But this only happens when the reader is tech-illiterate (by no means as an insult). Amongst engineers, the difference between these approaches should be more than clear.

AFAIK, 10 years ago we were using so-called AI already on our IDEs. So called because it’s just predictive text. As for the chat tab I use, for me is like having a convenient search engine.

But again, I totally get you and I understand the concern.

in reply to Carlos (명준)

@iscarlosmolero

> But this only happens when the reader is tech-illiterate (by no means as an insult). Amongst engineers, the difference between these approaches should be more than clear.

That's a conjecture not fact. If it were true I do not think many engineers would be using this stuff in any of its forms.

Anyway, I've already said I do not wish to debate this. By all means do you, but don't seek my approval.

@0x0 @catsalad

in reply to Cat 🐈🥗 (D.Burch)

Chimera linux? They are highly critical regarding high-quality code to the point of using a free-bsd userland and designing their custom ecosystem around dinit, so I wouldn't be surprised if they are anti-AI-slop.

They even created a rather high-performace build and packaging system...

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@rotsaruckz63 Tis a shame about Pixelfed 🫤

mastodon.gamedev.place/@antimundo/117338493301655253

infosec.exchange/@thepwnicorn/117340986598165441


Pixelfed is now using AI, and I'm stopping recommending Pixelfed to anyone.

github.com/pixelfed/pixelfed/commit/65dff00e4fdf06be87e1122420d2ffec1d21f8a7

Update. It seems they've changed their mind and reverted the changes: mastodon.social/@pixelfed/117350705262301318

#pixelfed #fediverse #AI


in reply to Cat 🐈🥗 (D.Burch)

do i see KDE on the list? i am not sure about that right now...

(kinda relatedly but not the same, this site exists and has fedi links for many people as opposed to projects, which is cool, but it's hard to tell what project(s) they're associated with
handcraftedcode.org/ )

in reply to Cat 🐈🥗 (D.Burch)
codeberg has codeberg.org/ethical-foss/open-slopware that tries to show the last safe commit/release too.
Right now, it's looking like curl and sql adjacent things will be the hardest to address. There are alternatives though, and I'm currently using preslop versions.
in reply to Cat 🐈🥗 (D.Burch)

Maybe you could put the ones eliminated too, maybe with something like a red cross? Because it's difficult to know if an app isn't there because it uses genAI, or only because you missed it.

Which leads to my question: does @gotosocial uses genAI? I don't think so, but you never know these days.

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@Nullstring 🏴‍☠️ The worst part: I already boycott AI (and many other things) in a general basis, I'm merely fatalist about AI being fated to infiltrate most free software projects because the influence is so well financed compared to the FLOSS community. If being realistic about the stakes makes me look like a "stealth AI supporter", then that means there are millions of those.
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@alexia @freeplay

We have an internal AI policy in our project, but I just posted a public one for clarification.

Personally, I'm very critical of the AI industry, so I try to set a policy that is actually enforceable in practice. But I'm immersed in this technology at work whether I want to or not, and for all its problems it is helpful for *some* things.

Esta entrada fue editada (domingo, 27 de septiembre de 2026, 15:35)
in reply to Cat 🐈🥗 (D.Burch)

via my other head,

ehlo.exim.org/@bernardq/116851178355484115

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in reply to Cat 🐈🥗 (D.Burch)
I wonder whether @Luanti is more of a gray area github.com/luanti-org/luanti/blob/master/doc/developing/ai_policy.md
in reply to Cat 🐈🥗 (D.Burch)

KDE (433.world/@Yuvalne/117324432250512573) and Tuta (github.com/tutao/tutanota/pull/10112#pullrequestreview-3593084498) are still on the list?

Hmm... Is it outdated?

And yes, I know that in the Tuta link Copilot can be invoked by anyone; but the devs didn't scold the PR author.

in reply to Cat 🐈🥗 (D.Burch)

Glad I checked this out. So many cool projects.

2 corrections though.

I know someone mentioned this, but I am going to make sure it is seen postmarketOS is now Nura with a new account fosstodon.org/@nura@treehouse.systems

Chimera Linux has a new account at floss.social/@chimera@gts.chimera-linux.org

Those are the ones I saw, but more could need updates.

Is there a way to follow what gets added to the list and what gets eliminated other than following you? (I am following you)