This one will hurt: I love 1Password as a product. But I'm the son of a concentration camp survivor. I will not give money to companies that align themselves with nationalism, and certainly not ethnic cleansing. Completely disappointing, @1password. flyingpenguin.com/dhh-nazism-funded-by-1password-vp-who-wrote-honest-security/
DHH Nazism Funded by 1Password VP Who Wrote “Honest Security” | flyingpenguin
DHH Nazism Funded by 1Password VP Who Wrote “Honest Security”flyingpenguin
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Stanley Jones
in reply to Ben Werdmuller • • •I'm bringing this up because I've found you to be a deeply thoughtful person and it's something I've been struggling with...
There has to be a difference between a 1Password, whose crime is funding a project that is led by someone with hateful views and a Palantir, whose entire business is to empower authoritarianism, right?
I feel like we need a #FashTech tier list.
Ben Werdmuller
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in reply to Ben Werdmuller • • •Stanley Jones
in reply to Ben Werdmuller • • •Oof, I missed that.
I guess I'm dreading trying to explain to my wife that we may need to change password managers because of these twisted relationships and wondering if maybe I'm being overly reactionary.
For example, I have a Framework laptop and they've supported Omarchy in the past. But would switching to Lenovo or Dell really be any better? What's the harm I'm trying to address?
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Reinier Ladan
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in reply to Reinier Ladan • • •@reinier @stanley cool if so, but there was never any denouncement (that i saw?), only a pathetic defense of their "big tent" approach to donations, which is always bullshit
sgued.fr/blog/framework-omarchy/#framework-disappointing-response
Why people are mad at Framework
SGuedthe elder sea
in reply to Reinier Ladan • • •Citation ?
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derptron
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in reply to Stanley Jones • • •@stanley I guess the main way I would frame it is that "While Palantir makes fascism their mission statement, 1Password is not making fascism *their* mission statement - their mission statement is more about making money that they're putting towards someone else who *is* making fascism their mission statement.".
The indirection feels like they know they can't be Palantir, but they could fund Palantir with a smokescreen.
SackOfBones (any/all)
in reply to Stanley Jones • • •If you're in the UK, Starlabs. If you're anywhere else all I know is System76, please for the love of all that is unholy tell me they haven't had any controversies.
Just don't buy any more of their products.
@ben
derptron
in reply to Ben Werdmuller • • •@stanley But you just posted an article where is quoted as doing so!
There's his daughter standing by their pool in their multi-million dollar mansion. Let's ignore the haters and get with progress.
You don't get more direct than that.
Alex Hoffmann
in reply to Ben Werdmuller • • •Thomas Fuchs
in reply to Stanley Jones • • •@stanley It should be noted that Omarchy as a project is (in the words of its creator) specifically political to “keep clowns out of Linux”.
By clowns he means trans people and that they’re mentally ill and should be laughed at and forcefully driven out.
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in reply to Borris • • •Downes 🍁
in reply to Ben Werdmuller • • •Bredroll
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in reply to Bredroll • • •blturner
in reply to Ben Werdmuller • • •Donald Ball
in reply to blturner • • •@ben@social.benjaminturner.me It’s not just the sync, it’s the sharing, the access controls, the monitoring, the array of clients, etc.
I am fucking out of their systems and taking my family with me, but let’s not pretend they weren’t solving a real problem at a fair price for many.
groxx
in reply to blturner • • •@ben@social.benjaminturner.me yep, that's when I ducked out too. It was very clear where the company was going when they said that an in-browser subscription service was more secure than a local one. You cannot be both sane and have your users' best interests in mind while claiming that, so one or both must be false.
(*Offering* that is fine, many people prefer it. Claiming it's more secure is not.)
And then the headcount at the company exploded. Another not-so-subtle hint about their goals.
1Password has not been customer-friendly for a very long time. They don't deserve your money, leave now rather than wait until they start impacting you personally.
nullagent
in reply to Ben Werdmuller • • •VP of 1Password used a picture of his kids as an explanation of why he used company money to financially support a fascist.
Sad af.
@ben @1password
#1Password
derptron
in reply to Ben Werdmuller • • •Well. It's as they said: they already have a strong membership in that community.
And there we see their justification: a fuck ton of money.
Is what it is. Don't go hoping you can change their minds.
Andreas Schantl
in reply to Ben Werdmuller • • •Scott Murray
in reply to Andreas Schantl • • •@andjsch Also check @aliasvault.
I recently left 1P for PP. I like PP better but then read maybe Proton is no better, politically:
reddit.com/r/degoogle/comments/1tzbizh/proton_is_funding_the_french_far_right_on_youtube/
:( I want to write up my findings as I had specific needs from a password manager (family sharing etc.) and also wanted to avoid AWS and gross companies so… it really narrows things down! 😅😅😅
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in reply to Scott Murray • • •Mike 🇨🇦 🇳🇱
in reply to Scott Murray • • •@scott Consider their response though.
reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/
That, to me, says a lot. A company can make a mistake, but that is so different than 1Password's "Oh, we just meant to support the company, not the person" workaround. Proton said "This was wrong, we didn't mean it, we will fix it"
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diuashjdknjhsfg (reddit)Scott Murray
in reply to Mike 🇨🇦 🇳🇱 • • •Scott Murray
in reply to Scott Murray • • •@pictor OKso I just read all the replies in the various follow up posts on Reddit. Proton, to me, is falling into the now-familiar trap of claiming neutrality and “we are not political” because they understandably don’t want to alienate potential customers. But… we are all political and claiming to be “not political” just means you are comfortable with the status quo. It’s an especially wild time to claim neutrality. The initial offense here (YouTube video sponsorship) is minor next to 1P’s $300K commitment… but still it doesn’t sit super well with me. 😕
All of this, on top of SO MANY abuses of power and privilege… personally I think my tolerance for this absence of a spine is extremely low. That’s what I appreciate about self-hosted / federated / decentralized tools; we can manage our own data and be less vulnerable to someone else’s enshittification. </rant>
... Mostrar más@pictor OKso I just read all the replies in the various follow up posts on Reddit. Proton, to me, is falling into the now-familiar trap of claiming neutrality and “we are not political” because they understandably don’t want to alienate potential customers. But… we are all political and claiming to be “not political” just means you are comfortable with the status quo. It’s an especially wild time to claim neutrality. The initial offense here (YouTube video sponsorship) is minor next to 1P’s $300K commitment… but still it doesn’t sit super well with me. 😕
All of this, on top of SO MANY abuses of power and privilege… personally I think my tolerance for this absence of a spine is extremely low. That’s what I appreciate about self-hosted / federated / decentralized tools; we can manage our own data and be less vulnerable to someone else’s enshittification. </rant>
Antwan van Houdt
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in reply to Ben Werdmuller • • •Miguel de Icaza ᯅ🍉
in reply to Ben Werdmuller • • •this piece is solid. It is missing what I think was the most outrageous post, with the explicit call to action at the end:
world.hey.com/dhh/three-sacred-cows-that-must-die-so-europe-can-live-1afb203d
Three sacred cows that must die so Europe can live
world.hey.comderekheld
in reply to Ben Werdmuller • • •Petty Thanos
in reply to Ben Werdmuller • • •Scale Theory
in reply to Ben Werdmuller • • •All those supporters are also nationalist'.
"'I am a nationalist,' Trump proclaims at Houston rally"
"New York Times' Proof that Trump Is Now a Fascist "
Noted; NYT is a co-conspirator to fascism or state press.
Won't hear them do a story on how billionaire fascist overthrew the USA.
buwel
in reply to Ben Werdmuller • • •fuck that. I am as German as they come and I will support you and everyone else on this!
@1password
D2
in reply to Ben Werdmuller • • •as far as the _mechanics_ of vaults, I’ve gone to BitWarden, and on iOS, Linux browsers, windows browsers, and Mac browsers, the plugins exist to make password mgmt pretty transparent. Easily installed, too.
@1password
Blort™ 🐀Ⓥ🥋☣️
in reply to Ben Werdmuller • • •CORRECTION: See correction below. Bitwarden are still being puppets of a right wing chud, but the specific controversy I mentioned below here was Mullvad. Bitwarden's controversy bodes just about as badly, though.
Original:
I moved from @1password to @bitwarden and it didn't hurt a bit. Now Bitwarden is funding a right wing political party, I'm looking forward to moving to @aliasvault . I love that it provides email aliases as well!
#PasswordManager #!Password #Bitwarden #AliasVault #Politics #FOSS #Selfhosting
Ryan
in reply to Blort™ 🐀Ⓥ🥋☣️ • • •Blort™ 🐀Ⓥ🥋☣️
in reply to Ryan • • •@fullywoolly @bitwarden @aliasvault
Sorry! I used to like them, too.
Ryan
in reply to Blort™ 🐀Ⓥ🥋☣️ • • •Blort™ 🐀Ⓥ🥋☣️
in reply to Ryan • • •@fullywoolly
Sorry, I got my corporate right wing controversies mixed up! @mullvadnet was funding a far right political party.
In May, @bitwarden changed management and got some private equity chud in who immediately had them remove inclusiveness and transparency from their core values and remove any mention of having an always free tier. (One of many sources below)
Good riddance to both in their enshitification.
fastcompany.com/91542655/bitwarden-scrubs-always-free-and-inclusion-values-from-its-website-as-longt…
#Mullvad #Bitwarden
Ryan
in reply to Blort™ 🐀Ⓥ🥋☣️ • • •@Blort @mullvadnet @bitwarden ahh I hadn't heard about them backing off from always free and dropping inclusiveness.
Still not great. I'll add it to the list for self hosting too.
Thanks for the info.
Ryan
in reply to Blort™ 🐀Ⓥ🥋☣️ • • •SackOfBones (any/all)
in reply to Blort™ 🐀Ⓥ🥋☣️ • • •@Blort
Vaultwarden also seems good, I haven't heard anything about them and I've had nothing but good experiences with hosting it. I'll also have a look at @aliasvault, seems interesting
@ben @1password @bitwarden
Wish the sun to stand still 🌞
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