You don't even have to purchase something several times. I bought two of the same monitor once and now it thinks I have a preference for that no-name brand. It's pretty dang dumb.
Yeah. Mine is really basic as well. It can be summed up as has kids, pets and a car.
The weirdest thing I see is "frequently repairs small engines"
I replaced the carb on my lawn mower last year. It's the only part I order from Amazon because I'm lazy and wanted an prebuilt carb. I hardly call that frequent but maybe it's a low bar.
Nah. I don't need to know that when I can make my own conferences about where they got this information from.
I have a tile bathroom. Hanging stuff in there is a nightmare. I also have used those adhesive strips to mount things to the back of my TV and to my toolbox.
My brother loses/breaks chargers like it's going out of style so I buy him on every few months.
The lack of information there is kind of weird given how old the account is. I was expecting a lot of stuff and got basically nil. Granted it's not like I use the account much, but I've had it since college when you could buy used books there.
The items that I own from them are fine. I don't really buy into all the like... Home improvement side of their business stuff. No vacuums, power you whole house power supplies, speakers, ear buds, etc. I'm probably missing a lot of the picture as far as their brand enshittification is concerned.
Mine is pretty meh. Gets a lot right, but thinks I have a dog and I prefer zigbee. I have a cat (that I've bought dog accessories for) and prefer Z wave, but usually buy those things elsewhere.
Most of the things it has are directly related to a single purchase that I remember. It thinks I like a certain brand of monitor because I bought two of them for secondary monitors once. They are no-name monitors and I could not care less about the brand. It's pretty basic shit. I could probably write the algorithm for it.
Mine is pretty straightforward, "builds electronics" "has precision tools" "likely has a french press" (I do, I bought it on Amazon), "prioritizes high-speed data transfer", "Probably has a computer system with internal expansion" (I bought an NVMe SSD from Amazon once), "Likely lives in (the town in my saved shipping address)"
It's a lot bigger than just this though, because they buy data broker info, which isn't included.
I once read a piece in Harper's Magazine, they bought these data brokers' bullshit and looked at their own profiles, and they were very wrong on a great many things, wrongly labeling people as gay, (facebook tried showing me gay ads at one point,) and a host of other ill informed conclusions about us.
Keep in mind, the feds, and maybe states now, buy this information to use against us. We should have some rights, but we don't.
I'm gonna go somewhere else now. I'm not interested in your weird unfocused aggression or your inability to enjoy a meme. In fact I'll go ahead and block you because it's simpler, I hope you feel better soon.
That’s so nice nicer than saying I’m constantly trying and failing at my hobbies as I realize how little I know and how ill prepared I am for my ambitions.
Same here with "likely prefers specialized tools for specific tasks" rather than "hyperfocuses on a new hobby every month and convinces themselves to buy the pro tool 9000 because they will absolutely not leave it collecting dust this time"
Yeah I was going to say. My AuDHD has my profile looking like I’m the most interesting person on earth. They don’t know that I’m just always planning to take up hobbies, and not really diving in fully on any of them. Always planning, never doing :(
Not in Japan yet, at least on my account. I only use amazon a couple of times a year for things I can't get anywhere else, but it should have plenty of history to work with.
Someone in the meeting was like “Okay, but what if the purchaser is a sugar daddy? Or they are buying goods to a blind shipper to evade export bans?” And that’s likely how “Technically correct, but kind of annoying Terry” got his hyper-specific nickname.
Considering that I haven't purchased anything from Amazon in almost a year (and the few things that I do purchase from there are generally game controllers anyway), Amazon barely knows a thing about me, besides of "Gravitates toward compact, low-cost functional components", "Favors multi-platform and cross-device compatible accessories", and "Plays fighting games with specialized hardware".
Mine is pretty boring. Honestly, I imagine Amazon has a much deeper profile for us hidden away and this is the one they wanted us to find to diffuse our suspicions of being constantly spied on... Seriously, I bet me TV knows more about me than that list.
I don't think it's that elaborate of a conspiracy. The "deeper" profile "hidden away" is just not in plain English. They probably had to do extra processing to produce the neat human interpretable data. I'm guessing the real purpose of this is getting the humans to look at it and correct the mistakes because a lot of people are dumb enough to do just that.
Because Amazon wiped out what Walmart and other big box stores didn’t kill in the first round. Sometimes there’s literally no place else to get what I need, not even order it in to a local store. On top of that, Google search for products is so wrecked that the choices it returns are amazon links, or links to websites that also provide amazon links to the same products. It’s fucked up.
(FWIW I do buy local or direct from businesses other than Amazon when possible, but it’s simply not possible all the time)
Sure bud. I’m not here to drive 9 hours and two states over to pick up something I need just to satisfy whatever BS arbitrary metric you have in your head.
The point I'm making that you are making it seem llke it's a lot easier that it is to do the right thing. Not everyone has the time, money, and mental energy that you have to seek out more wholesome alternatives. Sometimes you just need something, and you need it now with minimal friction. You are very lucky and privileged that you have the time and patience to put up with the hassle of doing business with a small company. There are way too many scammers and unreliable merchants out there and it's a game of Whack-A-Mole separating the legit small businesses from the bullshitters.
I get where you're coming from and try my best not to fund the fascist machine, but I'm only human, and sometimes I just want to take the easy route and order something off of Amazon. And there's nothing wrong with that, because I know my heart is in the right place.
Well good for you. I'm glad you're privileged. You can afford to get scammed every once in awhile by a small business. When that happens to me, I can't eat until my next paycheck. So I go with the cheapest, more reliable option, because that's what I can afford.
nah fuck that, the episode you're talking about is where they lost me.
"There's no ethical consumption under capitalism... therefore we're going to rewrite the rules of the cosmos to give you a pass for it, and now you're not obliged to fight it any more. You can go back to being happy little consumers now, all your guilt is absolved. Fremulon. NBCUniversal, a Comcast company."
I'm not talking about a specific episode—I'm way too ADHD for that—rather the message of the show in general. So knock it off with the strawman argument.
Reread my reply to the other person, and you'll understand the point I'm trying to make. Capitalism makes it impossible to be a perfect person, so until the system changes, do the best you can in the meantime.
maybe just do a little more research and purchase online from companies that AREN’T Amazon.
I have done this, ordered from the company’s website, and still got the stuff shipped from an Amazon warehouse. I think the most recent one was an Otterbox phone case. It’s been a while because I don’t order much stuff shipped to me unless I can’t find what I need locally.
This has also been my experience. If i order something off eBay, there's a decent chance it's going to arrive in an Amazon box, delivered by an Amazon driver. I just had this happen the other day, decided to try an eBay seller and avoid Amazon. Sure enough it ended up being a shipment directly from Amazon through the eBay sellers account.
Easy to speak from a high horse when you live in a place where there are better alternatives to Amazon. I live in Europe and either I go to the alternative but doesn't deliver to Ireland, or the site has very limited selection.
I live in Finland and have managed to always find an alternative. Ireland gets way more shipping options than Finland. You're literally just not searching hard enough.
1) don't use Google. It always only tries to give regional search options. Use Startpage and change the region.
2) search in a different country's language. If searching in Poland for example, search in Polish.
And heck, if you somehow still can't find what you need from those stores, just look at China - EU shops. Most of Amazon's shit is from China anyway, so might as well avoid the middleman.
I went to a Polish site and they don't deliver to Ireland.
You're literally just not searching hard enough.
That's fair but now you see why there isn't a European Amazon? Amazon makes things convenient. They operate on a single language and have good localised pages for many parts of the world. I could have my Firefox browser translate but it's still done awkwardly. Europe doesn't offer an alternate Amazon because of multiple languages and different structures because each countries do their own. The closest rival is Wildberries but there is sanction on Russia.
1) Then why mention Google search in your previous comment? 2) There's more countries than Poland. That's just an example. You could try Spain - they have a big market too, for example.
Or you could do option three I mentioned and you ignored - buying straight from China if out of options. It's likely the thing you wanted was made there anyway if you can't find a European courier service to ship it to you.
We both know why Amazon is successful. But unless you or I get a couple million euros minimum, we can't do much about setting up a competitor to Amazon (Also they operate on multiple languages too btw, there's Amazon.de in German or Amazon.es in Spanish).
Firefox browser at least translates well enough. If it didn't exist, you'd have a much better reason, but it does.
It's not that hard to boycott Amazon, but people from 1st world countries have gotten extremely lazy for very particular things. This is one of them. Buying something already takes more effort than not buying something - units you're someone born with a silver s
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1) Then why mention Google search in your previous comment? 2) There's more countries than Poland. That's just an example. You could try Spain - they have a big market too, for example.
Or you could do option three I mentioned and you ignored - buying straight from China if out of options. It's likely the thing you wanted was made there anyway if you can't find a European courier service to ship it to you.
We both know why Amazon is successful. But unless you or I get a couple million euros minimum, we can't do much about setting up a competitor to Amazon (Also they operate on multiple languages too btw, there's Amazon.de in German or Amazon.es in Spanish).
Firefox browser at least translates well enough. If it didn't exist, you'd have a much better reason, but it does.
It's not that hard to boycott Amazon, but people from 1st world countries have gotten extremely lazy for very particular things. This is one of them. Buying something already takes more effort than not buying something - units you're someone born with a silver spoon in your mouth I suppose. People in these countries have a more "throw it away" attitude than a "needs to keep working a long time" one. It's cultural.
Does it take more time to give something without Amazon? Yes. Does it take a lot more time though? Not really. In the end, it really comes down to just not caring enough about fascism/climate/corruption. Because realistically, by choosing Amazon, you've already decided that those things matter less than whatever doodad you're buying, and outside of something that's from the base layer of the hierarchy of needs, like medicine or food, you don't have a good reason.
I've grown up poor. I've gone through times of poverty so extreme I went without food for nearly a week, and other times would walk miles to forage for food in a forest. While in university. The ones in high horses are the ones privileged enough to think needing to buy something from Amazon is a realistic issue.
I never said Google, not sure what you're trying to read. I use Duckduckgo but I admit it's getting terrible over the years and I might start using Startpage because I think it's slightly better.
The Amazon pages have bettee localisation and better translation to many languages, unlike Firefox translation which I still find clumsy.
Does it take more time to give something without Amazon? Yes. Does it take a lot more time though? Not really. In the end, it really comes down to just not caring enough about fascism/climate/corruption.
Because it's almost always superior, if you need things from more than one "niche". Specialty shops only make sense if you have a big order in that niche, like building a new PC. If you want a hard drive, some TCG card sleeves, some zero cal food products, and wanna top up on boxer shorts, Amazon is just too far ahead.
I have tried other "everything" retailers in Europe, like Otto, but their selection for everything is tiny. Ironically, it's not tiny well selected, well known european brands. It's still filled with Chinese shovel ware.
Mine says "Builds Xbox controller collection gradually." I buy my husband a new controller about every 8 months because the sticks start to drift. Maybe it should say Xbox makes shit products.
Seems like this is just an American thing. I have a German and an American account and couldn't find the "About You" page on the German one. Man, I love GDPR
They pegged me as someone who reads cheap ebooks, only reads Dungeon Crawler Carl, pretty much buys only D&D battle mat books, and buys women’s clothes. I’m a married male, but that last one had me laughing. I have bought things for my wife in the past.
I was expecting to be horrified but mine actually made me feel pretty good lol
I prefer Anker USB devices, I grow plants as a hobby, and I consistently maintain dog supplies!
The only thing it got wrong is it thinks I have kids. But I guess I only really use amazon to get stuff for my dog and my sister's kids so that's no surprise
Mine thinks I keep impulsively buying stuff to maintain an organized workshop because I manage to keep an organized workshop, when the reality is it's full of half-finished organization projects cluttering up the whole space.
Hahahaha... now I'm kind of sad I deleted my account after Amazon kept trying to scam me by offering me free Amazon prime. They would give me a month free, then like 10 days, then only like 3 days, hoping I would forget and have to be charged for it. When they finally caught me out, I just told them to fuck off and deleted my account. Never liked their other predatory practices, like how they would plagiarise and sell existing products for dirt cheap and label them Amazon Basics... And then when companies would go out of business. They would bring up the prices. I guess you don't get that wealthy without stepping on a lot of people.
I have one collecting dust. I could delete it but it never gets used and they'll profile me anyway. Last purchase was in February 2020. I've always hated amazon because of where I grew up and other reasons, but seeing how warehouse workers were treated during the pandemic was the tipping point for me. Convenience is like a drug, and going cold turkey was pretty fucking hard honestly. But it's become easier over time. I will never give another red fucking cent to Borzo.
Honestly I wish I didn't. I don't have a google account. Don't have any Meta accounts. Don't have accounts for basically anything I'm not functionally REQUIRED to have (banking for example). But Amazon is hard to avoid. I do a lot of buying in person, but in person shopping is just horrible these days. You need to find something specific and you are screwed. I do try to find other places online to get something when I can but a lot of times I just have to fall back to amazon. Maybe part of it is just the area I'm in though. Tons of the more specialty stores here have closed down. We don't even have an electronics store anymore after Best Buy closed.
I've had the privilege to live in economically robust (relatively speaking lol) environments, which has helped a lot in my mission to avoid them. I've been able to do it but I've also been lucky. Keep the fire alive, keep searching for alternatives. But damn do I feel for your situation, not even having a basic electronics type store is pretty rough.
Yeahhh they're nearly on the same level. Treatment of workers is roughly on par, I just haven't heard of a Walton-Epstein connection (yet). But yeah fuck the Waltons lol
I've never felt any need to have an Amazon account, there you go. Never bought anything for them or even found anything that I wanted to buy from them.
It helps that they were so late to market in NZ that they still aren't really that commonly used here. There's better local alternatives which cost less
I do use AWS for work though (but we're gradually shifting off them, there's way cheaper alternatives these days)
The one that got me was "probably has a husband who doesn't like lotion"
I always figured Amazon knew the most about me because what you buy probably says more about you than what you search. Like Google may think I'm a raving lunatic but Amazon knows I am a householder and what I use. So I was honestly pretty relieved most of it was very general except that oddball example above.
Everyone getting mad that they made a profile about you, but nobody acknowledging that you can edit the info and make them believe crazy things about you.
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I hope everyone has added this to their file about Jeff Bezos
Amazon founder Jeff Bezos had Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell attend his private, invitation-only, weekend at a resort he rented out. Bezos also has numerous private dinners with Epstein. They were good friends.
Ah good. He was in goods with the secret police that's two thousand or so years old that's described in the New Testament at an eighth grade reading level, that is a good thing, and I am glad. For additional clarification, I want to make sure that you have understood that I have called out the farce of the police state that is using my still-living and very real bud Jeff's reputation as a scaffold for thems child hooker things and trafficking and the like, but y'know, we all know how engrossed you are in that nine-figure industry as you are, cardboardboxfort. We see your search history over here in Quantico, or wherever tf you think I am.
I just checked mine. It says “probably has a dog” and I have 6 hobbies. Gardening, backpacking, mountaineering, swimming, professional jewelry making and painting lol. I’m adhd
Mine seemed to have pulled knowledge based on things I've mentioned in reviews. Otherwise it just seems to be pretty mundane for things like order history...yep, someone with a dog profile picture and who occasionally orders dog products may in fact, have a dog. The thing it gets tripped up on is things ordered for my kids or relatives from my account (but aren't necessarily gifts or shipped elsewhere)
Vandals_handle
in reply to zarkanian • • •Amazon being ableist, the preferred term is diminished gluteal syndrome.
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in reply to zarkanian • • •The Real King Gordon
in reply to zarkanian • • •Just checked and Amazon has this for my buttocks “Fully caked buttocks”.
Anybody know what this means?
criss_cross
in reply to The Real King Gordon • • •Zak
in reply to zarkanian • • •Mine doesn't have anything of a particularly personal nature, just obvious stuff from purchase history like:
Joelk111
in reply to Zak • • •Clent
in reply to Zak • • •Yeah. Mine is really basic as well. It can be summed up as has kids, pets and a car.
The weirdest thing I see is "frequently repairs small engines"
I replaced the carb on my lawn mower last year. It's the only part I order from Amazon because I'm lazy and wanted an prebuilt carb. I hardly call that frequent but maybe it's a low bar.
kestrel7_7
in reply to Clent • • •edgemaster72
in reply to zarkanian • • •atrielienz
in reply to zarkanian • • •Hilariously I apparently am big into adheasivly mounting things and also buying batteries. Nothing about my buttocks, sadly.
Oh. And I prefer Anker chargers.
ayyy
in reply to atrielienz • • •What they don’t tell you on this page is the rest of their inferences based on that: you’re stuck in the renting class still.
This list of “admissions” is intentionally shitty to mollify people into accepting the data broker dystopia.
atrielienz
in reply to ayyy • • •Nah. I don't need to know that when I can make my own conferences about where they got this information from.
I have a tile bathroom. Hanging stuff in there is a nightmare. I also have used those adhesive strips to mount things to the back of my TV and to my toolbox.
My brother loses/breaks chargers like it's going out of style so I buy him on every few months.
The lack of information there is kind of weird given how old the account is. I was expecting a lot of stuff and got basically nil. Granted it's not like I use the account much, but I've had it since college when you could buy used books there.
ayyy
in reply to atrielienz • • •atrielienz
in reply to ayyy • • •Joelk111
in reply to zarkanian • • •Mine is pretty meh. Gets a lot right, but thinks I have a dog and I prefer zigbee. I have a cat (that I've bought dog accessories for) and prefer Z wave, but usually buy those things elsewhere.
Most of the things it has are directly related to a single purchase that I remember. It thinks I like a certain brand of monitor because I bought two of them for secondary monitors once. They are no-name monitors and I could not care less about the brand. It's pretty basic shit. I could probably write the algorithm for it.
Captain Aggravated
in reply to zarkanian • • •Mine is pretty straightforward, "builds electronics" "has precision tools" "likely has a french press" (I do, I bought it on Amazon), "prioritizes high-speed data transfer", "Probably has a computer system with internal expansion" (I bought an NVMe SSD from Amazon once), "Likely lives in (the town in my saved shipping address)"
So surveillance. Much sleuthing.
bedwyr
in reply to Captain Aggravated • • •It's a lot bigger than just this though, because they buy data broker info, which isn't included.
I once read a piece in Harper's Magazine, they bought these data brokers' bullshit and looked at their own profiles, and they were very wrong on a great many things, wrongly labeling people as gay, (facebook tried showing me gay ads at one point,) and a host of other ill informed conclusions about us.
Keep in mind, the feds, and maybe states now, buy this information to use against us. We should have some rights, but we don't.
db2
in reply to bedwyr • • •bedwyr
in reply to db2 • • •You have a point here? What is your point, because it seems to me you are looking for an excuse to pc attack someone making a valid point.
Answer my point! Or go fund yourself.
db2
in reply to bedwyr • • •ripcord
in reply to db2 • • •Monument
in reply to zarkanian • • •“Systematically building electronics laboratory.”
That’s so nice nicer than saying I’m constantly trying and failing at my hobbies as I realize how little I know and how ill prepared I am for my ambitions.
kat_angstrom
in reply to Monument • • •searabbit
in reply to Monument • • •Formfiller
in reply to searabbit • • •criscodisco
in reply to Monument • • •farmgineer
in reply to zarkanian • • •Jesus_666
in reply to farmgineer • • •blargh513
in reply to zarkanian • • •"Has a cat"
Ha ha bitches, I have TWO cats! Suck it big data, you LOSE!
lemmy_get_my_coat
in reply to blargh513 • • •Tikiporch
in reply to zarkanian • • •"Likely lives in X"
Birch you ship everything I've ever ordered to the same address.
Monument
in reply to Tikiporch • • •And that’s likely how “Technically correct, but kind of annoying Terry” got his hyper-specific nickname.
Tikiporch
in reply to Monument • • •"But the billing address of the Amazon credit card matches the shipping address!"
"Well, they could be a sugar daddy to their live-in mistress."
"Shut up, TCBKoA Terry."
frongt
in reply to zarkanian • • •Since no one is linking the page and I had to go hunt it down myself: amazon.com/slc/hub?useAiMode=1
Mine doesn't have anything interesting, probably because I avoid using Amazon if possible.
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in reply to zarkanian • • •You know, I'm actually kindof proud that Amazon figured this out about me...
almost1337
in reply to zarkanian • • •Though it definitely gets a lot of other things wrong, like the number of kids I have.
innermachine
in reply to almost1337 • • •TeaWithDani
in reply to zarkanian • • •Seems to only work on Amazon.com. My .ca info isnt used it. It says the following though:
"Make Amazon even more personal to you
Your other AI assistants have learned about you. Bring that knowledge here for an even more personalized experience.
Import
Not right now"
I think I'll go chuck my computer and iot devices into a dumpster now.
Crozekiel
in reply to zarkanian • • •searabbit
in reply to Crozekiel • • •some_kind_of_guy
in reply to searabbit • • •MrsDoyle
in reply to zarkanian • • •Phew.
InternetCitizen2
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in reply to Echo Dot • • •Vandals_handle
in reply to MrsDoyle • • •ayyy
in reply to zarkanian • • •Lmao they think I have kids.
…actually now that I think about it for 5 seconds I think they just love defrauding advertisers.
InternetCitizen2
in reply to ayyy • • •zeb420
in reply to ayyy • • •comfy
in reply to zarkanian • • •What's the cheapest way to gaslight these data points?
Let's say one has $10 to spare, what would you buy to ruin their model?
IamMoonPie
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in reply to zarkanian • • •RememberTheApollo_
in reply to IamMoonPie • • •Because Amazon wiped out what Walmart and other big box stores didn’t kill in the first round. Sometimes there’s literally no place else to get what I need, not even order it in to a local store. On top of that, Google search for products is so wrecked that the choices it returns are amazon links, or links to websites that also provide amazon links to the same products. It’s fucked up.
(FWIW I do buy local or direct from businesses other than Amazon when possible, but it’s simply not possible all the time)
IamMoonPie
in reply to RememberTheApollo_ • • •RememberTheApollo_
in reply to IamMoonPie • • •IamMoonPie
in reply to RememberTheApollo_ • • •Or… and here me out here, maybe just do a little more research and purchase online from companies that AREN’T Amazon.
I get we all want shopping to be easier, but that’s no excuse to fund the facist machine that is Amazon.
I’m going to hold your hand when I say this because I know this will be hard to hear, but it’s not just about you and your “convenience” buddy.
I’m disabled and can’t drive anywhere, and I somehow manage to figure it out. Sometimes it takes a while, but I can do it.
What could you possibly be shopping for that’s only on Amazon? And if said company is only on Amazon— why would you want to support them anyway?
All I’m saying is, if an idiot like me can do it, so can you.
Psythik
in reply to IamMoonPie • • •IamMoonPie
in reply to Psythik • • •Psythik
in reply to IamMoonPie • • •The point I'm making that you are making it seem llke it's a lot easier that it is to do the right thing. Not everyone has the time, money, and mental energy that you have to seek out more wholesome alternatives. Sometimes you just need something, and you need it now with minimal friction. You are very lucky and privileged that you have the time and patience to put up with the hassle of doing business with a small company. There are way too many scammers and unreliable merchants out there and it's a game of Whack-A-Mole separating the legit small businesses from the bullshitters.
I get where you're coming from and try my best not to fund the fascist machine, but I'm only human, and sometimes I just want to take the easy route and order something off of Amazon. And there's nothing wrong with that, because I know my heart is in the right place.
IamMoonPie
in reply to Psythik • • •Nope on every account. But hey, enjoy your cheap ass Nazi playes from Amazon I guess.
I’m absolutely privileged, but that has nothing to do with my ability to shop any other place than Amazon.
But hey, if you need to keep lying to yourself have it.
Psythik
in reply to IamMoonPie • • •skisnow
in reply to Psythik • • •nah fuck that, the episode you're talking about is where they lost me.
"There's no ethical consumption under capitalism... therefore we're going to rewrite the rules of the cosmos to give you a pass for it, and now you're not obliged to fight it any more. You can go back to being happy little consumers now, all your guilt is absolved. Fremulon. NBCUniversal, a Comcast company."
Psythik
in reply to skisnow • • •I'm not talking about a specific episode—I'm way too ADHD for that—rather the message of the show in general. So knock it off with the strawman argument.
Reread my reply to the other person, and you'll understand the point I'm trying to make. Capitalism makes it impossible to be a perfect person, so until the system changes, do the best you can in the meantime.
WindyRebel
in reply to IamMoonPie • • •I have done this, ordered from the company’s website, and still got the stuff shipped from an Amazon warehouse. I think the most recent one was an Otterbox phone case. It’s been a while because I don’t order much stuff shipped to me unless I can’t find what I need locally.
frunch
in reply to WindyRebel • • •WindyRebel
in reply to frunch • • •TankovayaDiviziya
in reply to IamMoonPie • • •Lumisal
in reply to TankovayaDiviziya • • •I live in Finland and have managed to always find an alternative. Ireland gets way more shipping options than Finland. You're literally just not searching hard enough.
1) don't use Google. It always only tries to give regional search options. Use Startpage and change the region.
2) search in a different country's language. If searching in Poland for example, search in Polish.
And heck, if you somehow still can't find what you need from those stores, just look at China - EU shops. Most of Amazon's shit is from China anyway, so might as well avoid the middleman.
TankovayaDiviziya
in reply to Lumisal • • •That's fair but now you see why there isn't a European Amazon? Amazon makes things convenient. They operate on a single language and have good localised pages for many parts of the world. I could have my Firefox browser translate but it's still done awkwardly. Europe doesn't offer an alternate Amazon because of multiple languages and different structures because each countries do their own. The closest rival is Wildberries but there is sanction on Russia.
Lumisal
in reply to TankovayaDiviziya • • •1) Then why mention Google search in your previous comment?
2) There's more countries than Poland. That's just an example. You could try Spain - they have a big market too, for example.
Or you could do option three I mentioned and you ignored - buying straight from China if out of options. It's likely the thing you wanted was made there anyway if you can't find a European courier service to ship it to you.
We both know why Amazon is successful. But unless you or I get a couple million euros minimum, we can't do much about setting up a competitor to Amazon (Also they operate on multiple languages too btw, there's Amazon.de in German or Amazon.es in Spanish).
Firefox browser at least translates well enough. If it didn't exist, you'd have a much better reason, but it does.
It's not that hard to boycott Amazon, but people from 1st world countries have gotten extremely lazy for very particular things. This is one of them. Buying something already takes more effort than not buying something - units you're someone born with a silver s
... Mostrar más1) Then why mention Google search in your previous comment?
2) There's more countries than Poland. That's just an example. You could try Spain - they have a big market too, for example.
Or you could do option three I mentioned and you ignored - buying straight from China if out of options. It's likely the thing you wanted was made there anyway if you can't find a European courier service to ship it to you.
We both know why Amazon is successful. But unless you or I get a couple million euros minimum, we can't do much about setting up a competitor to Amazon (Also they operate on multiple languages too btw, there's Amazon.de in German or Amazon.es in Spanish).
Firefox browser at least translates well enough. If it didn't exist, you'd have a much better reason, but it does.
It's not that hard to boycott Amazon, but people from 1st world countries have gotten extremely lazy for very particular things. This is one of them. Buying something already takes more effort than not buying something - units you're someone born with a silver spoon in your mouth I suppose. People in these countries have a more "throw it away" attitude than a "needs to keep working a long time" one. It's cultural.
Does it take more time to give something without Amazon? Yes. Does it take a lot more time though? Not really. In the end, it really comes down to just not caring enough about fascism/climate/corruption. Because realistically, by choosing Amazon, you've already decided that those things matter less than whatever doodad you're buying, and outside of something that's from the base layer of the hierarchy of needs, like medicine or food, you don't have a good reason.
I've grown up poor. I've gone through times of poverty so extreme I went without food for nearly a week, and other times would walk miles to forage for food in a forest. While in university. The ones in high horses are the ones privileged enough to think needing to buy something from Amazon is a realistic issue.
TankovayaDiviziya
in reply to Lumisal • • •I never said Google, not sure what you're trying to read. I use Duckduckgo but I admit it's getting terrible over the years and I might start using Startpage because I think it's slightly better.
The Amazon pages have bettee localisation and better translation to many languages, unlike Firefox translation which I still find clumsy.
That's a fair enough argument.
Lumisal
in reply to TankovayaDiviziya • • •My mistake, I thought you were the other commentator
StupidBrotherInLaw
in reply to IamMoonPie • • •RampantParanoia2365
in reply to IamMoonPie • • •r1veRRR
in reply to IamMoonPie • • •Because it's almost always superior, if you need things from more than one "niche". Specialty shops only make sense if you have a big order in that niche, like building a new PC. If you want a hard drive, some TCG card sleeves, some zero cal food products, and wanna top up on boxer shorts, Amazon is just too far ahead.
I have tried other "everything" retailers in Europe, like Otto, but their selection for everything is tiny. Ironically, it's not tiny well selected, well known european brands. It's still filled with Chinese shovel ware.
raspberriesareyummy
in reply to r1veRRR • • •Superior soap so I buy Auschwitz soaps
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You are so lost.
Aviandelight
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in reply to zarkanian • • •weps
in reply to zarkanian • • •I don't have Amazon
does anybody have the link to the about you page? I want to send it to friends
Jankatarch
in reply to zarkanian • • •What a judgemental slop.
FG_3479
in reply to Jankatarch • • •douglasg14b
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in reply to zarkanian • • •VeganCheesecake
in reply to BrainBow65 • • •There is a current proposal by the Irish presidency of the EU commission that would allow a GDPR exception for anything relating to AI.
Hope it dies in parliament. But never forget that the rights that do exist in the EU are constantly under attack by lobby interests.
Squizzy
in reply to VeganCheesecake • • •kestrel7_7
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in reply to zarkanian • • •glimse
in reply to zarkanian • • •I was expecting to be horrified but mine actually made me feel pretty good lol
I prefer Anker USB devices, I grow plants as a hobby, and I consistently maintain dog supplies!
The only thing it got wrong is it thinks I have kids. But I guess I only really use amazon to get stuff for my dog and my sister's kids so that's no surprise
funkless_eck
in reply to glimse • • •This is WAY off, I play bass.
glimse
in reply to funkless_eck • • •monkeyslikebananas2
in reply to funkless_eck • • •chiliedogg
in reply to funkless_eck • • •funkless_eck
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in reply to funkless_eck • • •chiliedogg
in reply to glimse • • •glimse
in reply to chiliedogg • • •Matt
in reply to zarkanian • • •Never liked their other predatory practices, like how they would plagiarise and sell existing products for dirt cheap and label them Amazon Basics... And then when companies would go out of business. They would bring up the prices. I guess you don't get that wealthy without stepping on a lot of people.
KarlHungus42
in reply to zarkanian • • •I can't get enough Boris detritus
Rekorse
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in reply to Rekorse • • •Doomsider
in reply to TubularTittyFrog • • •new_world_odor
in reply to Rekorse • • •XiJinpingStanAccount
in reply to Rekorse • • •new_world_odor
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in reply to new_world_odor • • •new_world_odor
in reply to XiJinpingStanAccount • • •southernbrewer
in reply to Rekorse • • •I've never felt any need to have an Amazon account, there you go. Never bought anything for them or even found anything that I wanted to buy from them.
It helps that they were so late to market in NZ that they still aren't really that commonly used here. There's better local alternatives which cost less
I do use AWS for work though (but we're gradually shifting off them, there's way cheaper alternatives these days)
RBWells
in reply to zarkanian • • •The one that got me was "probably has a husband who doesn't like lotion"
I always figured Amazon knew the most about me because what you buy probably says more about you than what you search. Like Google may think I'm a raving lunatic but Amazon knows I am a householder and what I use. So I was honestly pretty relieved most of it was very general except that oddball example above.
chewypoops
in reply to zarkanian • • •BilSabab
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in reply to CultLeader4Hire • • •Cleisthenian
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in reply to Cleisthenian • • •bitjunkie
in reply to BilSabab • • •hakunawazo
in reply to chewypoops • • •Shortly after the Amazon suggestions:
cardboardboxfort
in reply to zarkanian • • •I hope everyone has added this to their file about Jeff Bezos
Amazon founder Jeff Bezos had Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell attend his private, invitation-only, weekend at a resort he rented out. Bezos also has numerous private dinners with Epstein. They were good friends.
Impractical_Island
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in reply to bitjunkie • • •Formfiller
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in reply to zarkanian • • •Zugyuk
in reply to zarkanian • • •Fuck off, you buy one marital aid and you get this shit