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This month's Windows 11 update broke the Recycle Bin, OneDrive, and possibly your PC's stability

This month's Windows 11 update broke the Recycle Bin, OneDrive, and possibly your PC's stability

According to Microsoft, users who have installed the KB5095051 update might encounter a strange Recycle Bin bug that replaces the names of deleted files with internal Recycle...
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According to Microsoft, users who have installed the KB5095051 update might encounter a strange Recycle Bin bug that replaces the names of deleted files with internal Recycle Bin filenames in specific situations. When permanently deleting a single file from the Recycle Bin, the confirmation dialog displays a cryptic internal filename, such as $Rxxxxx.ext, instead of the original filename, such as realfilename.txt.


Ahh yes, Microsoft lying about how bad Microsoft are. \s

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Bazoogle

A major problem is backwards compatibility. There is so much infrastructure that would break if they wanted to redo portions of code in a more correct fashion. They have a massive variety of systems, and they're all integrated. Any time they want to do something, they're scared of something breaking. This time, AI is finding a shit ton of the vulnerabilities that are in these systems, and at least in part fixing them. It's unclear how much of the code is written or review by humans. But they're making changes to try to fix these vulnerabilities, and things are breaking. The Microsoft code is a giant fucking spaghetti mess, which means it's bloated, slow, insecure, inefficient, and overall shitty. It's not profitable enough to fix all of this, too. Fixing shit you already have doesn't get shareholders attentions. So it's AI in everything instead. New shiny stuff to keep the adult babies with all the money happy

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is there any anecdotal evidence that IT departments are at least considering, thinking about, having an initial assessment of doing anything but just buying whatever slop microsoft is spewing out?

kinda feels like until the river of gold from enterprise sales slows there is no downside to microsoft burning their platform.

my anecdote is that no, IT is still a MS crack addict.

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day to day people who don’t care about computers as a hobby memorize the steps to using their computers along with the icons. The average person couldn’t use Linux in a work environment simply because they lack critical thinking skills required to use a slightly different computing environment. Your everyday middle management refuses to cut productivity for long term change that isn’t overwhelmingly positive to their bottom line.
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Bazoogle

I'm curious what the people down voting you thought. You're 100% right. Critical thinking is in surprisingly short supply. If I provide instructions with pictures that have big red circles and an arrow around what they need to click for each step, I still need to make sure the instructions aren't more than like 7 steps otherwise they get lost.

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Regrettable_incident

The IT dept at my work uses exclusively Microsoft shit. Like, google products are banned on my work phone, as is pretty much everything else. They said this is for security and to help them remain GDPR compliant. As you might imagine, it's shit.

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Regrettable_incident

Not entirely. It's an android so it does have the play store, but only about a dozen apps are allowed to be installed. I can't even install what 3 words, which my work uses constantly. Also I'd like to install the Google swipe keyboard, cos the Microsoft one is shit.

Basically, the combination of a device that's locked down hard and it only allowing MS products makes my work slower and harder than it needs to be.

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Redditisbollocks

People can barely use Windows and it's been around for 30 years.

I am not teaching 180+ staff how to use Macs or Linux.

I'm not an MS fanboy by any means, but my job is hard enough without adding extra shit sprinkles on top.

Fuck that.

You obviously have zero knowledge about working in that environment.

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bryndos

Yeah , most of the people in our IT don't know how to use windows, much less teach anyone else about it.

They just try, and often fail to lock it down so that people can't break it. They remote in and make something slightly less bad and say, "well that was all setup wrong". but they never teach anyone a thing - or apparently learn how to use install all this ms shite they buy before they force it on us.

I think that's the real issue with linux. IT people don't want to learn it, and learn how to secure it - because many of them - especially the mamagers have got imposter syndrome about windows or something or stockholm syndrome, i dunno..

At least when they fuck it up with miscsoft they can often blame MS - and often they've got a reasonable case ans MS does seem to keep fucking them over with updates.

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mlg

It's because they sell all of their products as a vendor package with advertised SLAs and "discounts".

If your company needs cloud stuff and you happen to want Azure, you're basically getting locked into Teams.

Unlike specialty software like Adobe, pretty much everything Microsoft offers has feature parity or superior alternatives, it just relies on the fact that businesses aren't stuck on any one of their products.

There are actually a handful of companies that only use MacOS or Linux, but it requires both your IT team and management to be competent enough to throw MSFT away, which is much harder to do in a legacy settings when your entire domain infara is a 20+ year old AD domain.

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mycodesucks

It isn't the details or severity of the break that matters.

It's that the quality control process is SUPPOSED to catch that, and whatever sorry excuse for a process they're using now ALLOWED a break that was obvious, visible, and repeatable, inside a critical, core function of the operating system, to make it to the end users, something that should trigger as an immediate, flashing warning light. That means the entire quality control process at the very least is SEVERELY compromised and unreliable, and there could very easily be MUCH more severe vulnerabilities and bugs hiding underneath that AREN'T immediately visible. To anyone who has done any professional development for non-disposable code bases, this isn't a whisper of a problem - it's an air horn.

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Developer written unit tests likely wouldn’t even catch that bug with the recycling bin, because it doesn’t even matter what the text says when it’s being deleted. It’s not a breaking bug. It wouldn’t hold up a release. It might have even been found in QA and might have a super low priority ticket to fix it because again, it’s non breaking and doesn’t affect anything in any way.

You don’t understand how software dev QA works, clearly.

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GoatSynagogue

No it doesn’t. You still have to click delete on the file that you want to delete. Confirm boxes don’t even need to show the name of the file you’re deleting, just confirm if you want to delete it. When you empty the recycle bin it doesn’t ask you if you’re sure you’d like to delete x, y, and z file names, for example.
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mycodesucks

Linux doesn't charge hundreds of dollars per license to fund the development, rake in billions in profit, and then funnel that money into stock dividends instead of a proper quality assurance team.
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GoatSynagogue

It’s not. Broken means it doesn’t work. Everything about deleting files works. The file you told it to delete gets deleted. The only “issue”, in the absolute least problematic use of the word, is that it displays an internal name rather than the regular file name of the file as it’s being deleted.

It’s not broken if it works exactly as it’s supposed to.

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MIDItheKID

Weird. Monthly updates used to be pretty harmless with a bunch of little bug fixes that really only affected a few people. Then AI came out, and in the past 6 months or so every patch Tuesday has been a complete disaster. It's almost as if they laid off a bunch of engineers and now have the remaining ones just vibe coding shit while using the same LLM to do code review and everything is going to hell. Not that it was a phenomenal product to begin with, but when you have engineers vibe coding patches for such a delecate platform, it's going to end in disaster.

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Bazoogle

Are you suggesting the patches are fixing issues the AI caused? If so, that isn't what's happening. AI is finding vulnerabilities from old human written code at a pace unlike anything before. Not because humans couldn't technically find them, it's just that they never did. That isn't me marketing or shelling out for an AI company, there are many different models accomplishing the same thing, and more to come. It's not just with Microsoft, though Microsoft has a lot of vulnerabilities to find. AI is causing chaos for just about every major tech company with all the vulnerabilities being found. And they have to find and patch them before someone else uses the AI to find and abuse the vulnerabilities first. The long standing match of cat and mouse is much faster than it once was

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You can delete it from your run registry, and uninstall it by running
%systemroot%\SysWOW64\OneDriveSetup.exe /uninstall

Run and RunOnce Registry Keys - Win32 apps

Use Run or RunOnce registry keys to make a program run when a user logs on.
learn.microsoft.com

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Bazoogle

Idk how to tell you, but it's AI that found the vulnerabilities created by humans in the first place... Of course they didn't have to use AI to fix the discovered vulnerabilities, but it would've taken a lot longer and more than like still be riddled with bugs

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sompreno

well yeah, humans make mistakes that ai is capable of finding but so does ai which also makes mistakes frequently.

companies that use ai for bug fixing are spending extra on ai only for the ai to create Spaghetti code and require humans to go back and fix it anyway.

Ai is good for quick code generation but when it comes to larger scale projects like creating an operating system its much better used as a tool to support devs rather then the other way round.

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AbsolutelyClawless

Lately whenever someone complains their C partition is full, it's always unmistakably Adobe's fault. Their shitty way of updating piles up crap in the Windows Installer folder. Uninstalling Adobe and cleaning up its garbage, no joke, frees up anywhere from 20 to 40 gigabytes of storage. Insane.
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AbsolutelyClawless

Whatever the reader is called now. It's a known "feature". They use Windows Installer patch system to update the application, but for some reason if it fails to update, it just re-downloads the patch without removing the failed ones. Or at least that's my understanding. Allegedly (according to Adobe at least) it's a rare bug, but I've had over a dozen machines from end users where this caused C partition to run full and slow down/freeze/crash the system. And I'm being serious when I say some machines regained over 30GB of space after uninstalling the reader.
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Prove_your_argument

My work machine now regularly black screens for up to 30 seconds then comes back.


Almost certainly driver, sometimes a failing dock or cable though.

The Adobe Acrobat reader we are forced to use is now so bloated that it freezes the whole machine for up to a minute.


That's just adobe products. They're great for subscription revenue for adobe.

I switched to fedora for work myself and onlyoffice is handling my current pdf needs, works great and FOSS. Can save to DOCX and everything.. and the same program handles those too.

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Ironically people who "btw I use Arch" have been FREAKING OUT because their precious arch user repository got massively infected with infostealer malware, lol
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XLE

The Windows equivalent of this would basically be the discovery that a bunch of apps on the Microsoft Store were infected with malware.

This really sucks for people that migrated to Linux without becoming Linux experts, and chose a friendly distro based on Arch that came with the AUR, like the often-recommended CachyOS.

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Attacker94

There is a reason why the arch community had such a bad reputation when it came to newcomers, they were gate keeping good technical knowledge of the system. It had the side effect that most people became royal dicks on the forums and stopped being helpful, but it did have what I would consider the intended effect of people being wary of everything they did on their system.

I find the easy arch distros to be fairly interesting since my recommendation has always been that anyone who wants to daily drive an arch distro should install arch through command line at least once and read about the packages they use. I personally run endeavor os, but I started by doing the leg work, which led me to the conclusion that I prefer flatpaks over aur if it is available because they are far more easier to maintain good security practices on.

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The Windows equivalent of this would basically be the discovery that a bunch of apps on the Microsoft Store were infected with malware.


You mean like this?

howtogeek.com/788382/beware-of-malware-in-windows-apps-on-the-microsoft-store/

Beware of Malware in Windows Apps on the Microsoft Store

There's dangerous malware hiding in clones of popular Windows games.
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plutopos

For the casual user, they Just Work™. The famous ones like Stean, at least (I tried it sometime ago, it's better than the flatpak version nowadays). If you never change your cursor, never check out your partitions, etc. snap's problems aren't as visible
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CosmoNova

precious arch user repository


I think you vastly overestimate the importance of AUR. A lot of Arch users had to say something about the incident and many of them didn‘t even use it. It‘s definitely nothing essential.

Also Arch users still don‘t give a fuck about Windows. This whole AUR debacle has little to do with what OP was actually getting at.

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Cethin

FYI, CachyOS is Arch based. It has access to the AUR. If you weren't effected, that proves the point.

The AUR is a repository of last resort. It's useful, but you should be careful. That's true even before this even. It's a repository made by users, and is not verified.

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Creat

I use arch (kinda), and has zero issues. It was a problem if you used unmaintained packages from arch, as adopting them and contaminating then was the attack vector. Using someone that's unmaintained is always kinda questionable, so instead I'd just manually install that instead (it shouldn't change if it isn't maintained anyway).
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Cethin

That's like saying that github is equivalent to the Microsoft store. Sure, they provide the space for the repository. It's controlled by users though, as the name implies. It isn't the official repository, like the Microsoft store is the official "repository" for Windows.
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pinball_wizard

Yeah I got tired of the coin toss of if the update was gonna brick my PC or not


That brings back memories of my own days dual booting. I am so very thankful for Valve's (and other's!) contributions to Proton for gaming on Linux.

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Simulation6

I have found a couple of web sites that don't work with Firefox on Linux but do with with Firefox on Win11. Costco pharmacy is one. I still have a win11 laptop I can use, but I don't use it a lot and there are always massive updates every time I power it up.
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zebidiah

Because it's boring....
And honestly, that's the best reason of all for why you should stay!

I got bored/curious and wanted something shiny and new, and I'm okay with occasional weirdness and things breaking,

I was on fedora for a while and now I'm on cachyOS with niri as the window manager.

The real question is not why would you leave, it's why would you go back to micro$oft....

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M137

I have to use cloud streaming for gaming, Shadow specifically (because it's the only one that can do mods, emulation and (though not specifically allowed but you gotta be a real idiot to get caught) pirating). While you can run it on most things (Linux and Android for me) the cloud computer is only Windows, and while I absolutely do not want to give any props or positive anything to Microsoft, I've had none of the issues with Win11 that have been reported throughout the years. This means nothing, obviously, as it's only a subjective experience and these things wouldn't be reported if they weren't real problems. I've just been surprised over and over that I've had absolutely no sign of anything I've seen so much about. No matter my experience though, fuck microslop.