WiFi has its problems but they don't include a tiny plastic tab costing $0.002 that inevitably breaks off, making the physical connection susceptible to fail at the tiniest touch of a butterfly's wing
I remember trying to terminate some Cat5e in uni. I don't think a single one of the cables I made up were able to do gigabit... actually I don't think a single one was able to do 100 megabit. I'm colourblind so ordering the wires correctly was essentially impossible, but all of us involved were fucking up in various ways...
The Verizon guy liked coming to my place, asked me if I wanted modem upstairs or downstairs, told him it didn't matter, left side right side either way. 5ms ping maybe $100 in crimpers and cat7 from Lowe's.
I actively despise those things. When they’re the full boot they tend to be too tough. When they’re the tiny little things they do almost nothing. Plus the tabs will still break anyways eventually.
I have destroyed my fingertips a few times having to unplug lots of cables with a boot, from unifi stuff that had the ports slightly recessed. I hate both of those designs so much.
I currently have one that doesn't click, and during gaming sessions it will get hot and pop out just enough to disconnect me. I have no idea why I haven't replaced it yet.
It's actually yellow for some reason. I am in bed now but I am absolutely not clicking on 3 of the replies so they don't clear from my notifications until I replace it.
Easy my ass, somehow managed to make everything like I should at uni when we were taught these and still connection didn't happen on tester. Even our prof was baffled after we redid the process with her watching and it still failed. xD
Some of those old testers were bullshit IMO. The one we had for our CCNA class, half the time it said the cable was bad, it would work just fine, full speed, no drama.
WiFi 6e and 7 are legitimate competitors to standard 1gig Ethernet. Setting up my new WAP I got 1.4gbps down on my phone. And I think my laptop touched 2 at one point.
WiFi 6e and 7 are legitimate competitors to standard 1gig Ethernet.
In isolation, perhaps. Now cram 25 neighbors in high density housing in range with one another all using the same spectrum and see if that performance still is sustainable.
6ghz wifi doesn't go very far, you'll almost never see 25 6ghz connections.
At work I still get about 700 down with 25+ devices connected. There's legitimately about 50 wifi connections despite being 30 floors up, but they're all 2.4ghz which is worthless. Even 5ghz kinda sucks. But 6ghz? Rock solid.
The increase in frequency reduces signal penetration. Things like walls become major sources of signal attenuation. In open office plans, with no obstructive walls, no problem. In a house or apartment where you're separated by multiple walls (and the materials/thickness those walls are made of) that can add up to significant signal loss.
I haven't personally tried any 6GHz wifi technologies. Have you used it in any places where you're separated by obstructions from the access point?
Yes. I got 1.4gbps down through 2 walls. 6ghz penetrates a lot further than you'd think. And even weak 6ghz is better that 5ghz until the very outer reaches of signal. 6ghz wifi is truly magic.
And even weak 6ghz is better that 5ghz until the very outer reaches of signal.
I'm not doubting you, but I'm confused how this can be. My understanding is generally ss the wavelength of the radio wave shrinks, signal through medium attenuation increases. What is it about 6GHz over 5GHz that provides that island of stability you're describing?
I'm not saying that 6ghz has more range or anything. I'm saying that weak 6ghz is better than 5ghz at any signal until you get to the outer limits of 6ghz. 6ghz is just that much faster that even when the signal is weak it's better. And it's so much faster that even when it drops packets it can resend them so much quicker. And the latncy is lower, so there's less time between requesting a retransmit, and getting that data.
Ah gotcha, so you're saying 6GHz is better than 5GHz because of information density irrespective of signal penetration. That makes sense. Thanks for taking the time to explain that point. I appreciate it.
The newest specs have various flavors of MIMO and beam/null forming which helps cut down on co-channel interference. Having 8 antennas isn't just a gimmick these days, which is pretty cool.
I climbed up in the roof crawl space (by no stretch is it an "attic") and ran Cat6 to every room in my house 15 years ago. The living room and two smaller bedrooms got one, and the master bedroom got two.
I'm very happy with the upgrade. I also run WiFi, of course, for phones and tablets, and my kid's Steam Deck, etc.
I did the same but cat6a like 5 years ago. Though mine was primarily to limit wireless packet snooping/attacks, especially for devices that never got wpa3 support, not speed. There's like 50-60 devices on my network and all but two were wireless...
I just ran patch cables, got them from Monoprice. Every room got a different color, in case I ever need to repair/replace a rooms connecting cable. Router to switch, switch to wall, wall to attic to other wall, wall to device. With faceplates + keystone jacks between the two sides of the walls.
Yeah, it's one of those things where I was like, 'it's no extra cost, and can save me headaches in the future' so why not. And I used the same colors for the entire run of each room, so if I ever forget what color a room is, I just look at the wall plate and cable.
Yeah I've never had colors but we used to run them in offices when we needed and we would just label or patch panels and I'd just tape the ends and mark a sharpie like A1, A2,...A8, B1 etc where A would be room and number would be the port. Then if you had multiple racks/closets we would do something like 224-C4 on the plate side, so you could say this is patched in in room 224, rack C, switch 4.
I remember after a hurricane we were moving my company to another building and installing everything, we had crabs under the floor in the tubes they had to run cables so you could access them in the center of rooms or in areas that wouldnt have an easy drop on the first floor. First time I ever had gotten pinched by a grab trying to get them out lol.
I have a TP-Link router (with the wifi shut off) and three TP-Link PoE access points, and I still paid much less than that for the entire setup including cable to wire my house.
TP-Link is supposed to be the cheap alternative, FFS!
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T568B is the one everyone uses while T568A is the odd one.
I don't get what's particularly bad about T568A though? I was told it's just plain worse than T568B for anything faster than gigabit and I swear I never saw any store bought cables using it.
The configuration has absolutely no bearing on performance. It is purely for standardization. Straight through cables work with either because it's literally just connecting the copper on either end. The difference between A and B is just flipping 2 pairs around although I forget which. Only 4 or 5 cables of 8 are even used to this day which is crazy.
There are 4 pairs of 2 wires, for 8 overall. They are all used, but the pairs are redundant. From what I understand, when you send a positive pulse on, say, the solid blue wire, you also send a negative pulse on the stripy blue and white wire. The twisted pairs should counteract any interference, but if it doesn't, the arrival of the bumps with opposite polarity should foolproof things a little.
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OK so I just learned, like, last week that there are two standards. Why are there two standards? WTF?
(The context is I was turning an Ethernet cable into an EtherCAT cable, which is a stupid industrial standard where you only wire up pins 1, 2, 3, and 6, and then charge the end user 500 times more for the cable.)
There are two standards as it allows one to make a crossover cable. (Do B on one side and A on the other)
I also find crossover cables completely useless and refuse to own one less it gets mixed into the pile. Everyone has a router/switch, which negates the need completely.
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Back at the beginning of ~~times~~ ethernet, you needed the crossover cables to connect routers to routers, switches to switches or end devices to end devices. They wouldn't work with the straight cables.
The standard still needs those cables to be crossover, but nowadays the port itself can detect what type of cable you connected, what type of cable it needs, and rewire itself to accept whatever you throw at it.
The same thing happens when you directly connect 2 PCs together without a switch in the middle. But the ports also adapt themselves and work it out.
You could also use a crossover cable, and your devices would figure it out too.
It depends on the conditions Cables are always the winner, but I have an off grid cabin that has very poor cell reception. I usually end up getting less than 2 Mbps.
But my parents live about 400 meters away and have FTTH, in the countryside, because of a local cooperative.
I looked for using a fibre but it would cost several hundred dollars to have one that resists outdoor conditions in Quebec for a few years. So I settled for Wi-Fi. I get 10 Mbps with the two repeaters and very basic antenna alignment, which is better than 2.
I'd really like to use a cable but I'm only there a few weeks a year, so this works ok.
One setup is like this for me... And the answer is stupid but it works. Apart from using Unifi dish antennas, it was using outdoor self-bury cable and a series of self-powering outdoor PoE repeaters. Bury the whole thing and you can get Ethernet out there no problem. All you need is enough power via a PoE switch or injector to power the chain.
I thought about Ethernet but apparently the run is too long, even with repeaters. It will probably not have enough power. It's also a few hundred dollars for 400 meters of direct burial Ethernet cable, without counting the injectors and repeaters.
And most importantly, I wonder how the equipment would fare during winter when the ground is frozen solid for several months.
But maybe my fear of a few -25°C days is not justified, as I already left a Raspberry Pi in a barn with those temperatures, and it did fine. I'd have to check the temperature operating range for the equipment I use.
That's why in the end, if I have to use a cable, I was leaning towards direct burial fibre, as it can easily cover that distance without messing with PoE on long runs, would "only" cost a few hundred dollars more, and avoid the need to try to protect the repeaters/switches.
I'm still curious though, so I guess I could just try it for fun with a cheap Ethernet cable run for a summer, then see if it's really worth investing a bit more for the future.
I'm not a cable tech, but if I were laying my own I'd think running it through some pvc could not only make the cables more resistant but make the whole build way more expensive
Compounded that 2.5gb is the norm now with wifi7. Consumer routers with 2.5 were inflated to being with last I checked and I have no idea what they cost now.
Still a computer. And quite integral one. If it doesn't work, your internet and all devices that connects to it won't work. This is a device that has to work 24/7 and produce 0 issues at any time ad long ad it works. Higher end ones also have quite a bunch of useful settings and customization options. A normie might not need them, but a power user would appreciate these settings and how reliable this router is.
walmart here just closed-out a ton of laptops to 'make room' for the holiday garbage.. really cheap.. and they weren't the 4gb junk either. most had 8gb, some had 16gb ram+1tb nvme. started at <$100 and nothing with integrated graphics was more than $300. the last one with discrete graphics was already in someone's cart when i got there.
None of them are as cheap as mentioned in the post. But the snakey boi wins easy. The spiky boi is good if you wanna connect multiple devices and WiFi based file sharing in ecosystem setups. But the snakey boi has no dropping WiFi packets issues because it is simply internet plugged into your computer. Plus, WiFi travels through your walls the way it wants. Snakey boi travels through your walls the way you drill the holes to pass the cable. So, snakey boi wins always!
I've grown to hate these routers. They only seem useful if you live in an apartment and place them in the middle and your walls are made of paper. Bought a few through the years thinking more money = better wifi, but wall construction and placement have much more impact. Living in a brick house, they're pretty shit. I've switched to non gamified wifi AP's connected to ethernet and the wifi's been great. Still prioritize wired wherever possible though.
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If something looks cool and flashy and has tons of "extra functions" I stay the fuck away from it because I know the target demographic and I know it's going to be shit in surprising ways.
Used to live in a 2 story house built in the 1900’s. It had plaster & lath walls. I ended up with 4 AP’s scattered about before we had decent WiFi coverage.
One of the worst things about those routers other than having generally poor coverage despite looking like a Crown of Thorns was that if you actually took advantage of the more advanced features like VLANs, port forwarding, static routes, FTP and all that stuff and set it up… It inevitably seemed that there was a 99% chance that a firmware update would not allow you to restore a backup of the router config on the updated device!
That happened a couple times, spent days getting everything set up only to find out the firmware update refused to load a config made with an older version. F that. Never used those routers again.
The leftovers from a 100' roll i bought 15 years ago, some dusty ends and a crimper. $3 is probably too much. It's probably been 15 years since I've done it too but I still remember the order: Orange-white, orange, green-white, blue, blue-white, green, brown-white, brown
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Yes, some wireless routers can be used as repeaters.
Routers like that are really multi-purposes devices that handle routing, switching, and wireless. If you're only using a local network, you can still have the wifi network and all your devices communicate through that. You just won't have internet access.
With out the router/switch, the cable's usefullness is reduced - at least in the networking application we're talking about (the cable itself is incredibly usesful for many other things besides ethernet). You can connect (most) devices directly together for communication, they'll just self assign an IP address.
In less words, you can have a network with just a wireless router and no cable, but you can't have a network with only a cable and no router (well, you can't with 'normal people' devices)(also you don't need a router for a local network, only a switch - but the home versions are often combo devices and just called a router).
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Also thanks on deciphering what I meant. Stupid swipe keyboard. Saves a lot of time, but also makes a lot of mistakes.
LOL, that's a really bad place to put a reset button.
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in reply to fuckwit_mcbumcrumble • • •I like the flex tab that doesn’t have a hooked end.
Usually the tabs break from getting stressed the other direction while being “tugged gracefully and never with undue force”
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Easy my ass, somehow managed to make everything like I should at uni when we were taught these and still connection didn't happen on tester. Even our prof was baffled after we redid the process with her watching and it still failed. xD
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in reply to The Picard Maneuver • • •WiFi 6e and 7 are legitimate competitors to standard 1gig Ethernet. Setting up my new WAP I got 1.4gbps down on my phone. And I think my laptop touched 2 at one point.
But Ethernet will always be more consistent.
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in reply to fuckwit_mcbumcrumble • • •In isolation, perhaps. Now cram 25 neighbors in high density housing in range with one another all using the same spectrum and see if that performance still is sustainable.
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in reply to partial_accumen • • •6ghz wifi doesn't go very far, you'll almost never see 25 6ghz connections.
At work I still get about 700 down with 25+ devices connected. There's legitimately about 50 wifi connections despite being 30 floors up, but they're all 2.4ghz which is worthless. Even 5ghz kinda sucks. But 6ghz? Rock solid.
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in reply to fuckwit_mcbumcrumble • • •The increase in frequency reduces signal penetration. Things like walls become major sources of signal attenuation. In open office plans, with no obstructive walls, no problem. In a house or apartment where you're separated by multiple walls (and the materials/thickness those walls are made of) that can add up to significant signal loss.
I haven't personally tried any 6GHz wifi technologies. Have you used it in any places where you're separated by obstructions from the access point?
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in reply to fuckwit_mcbumcrumble • • •I'm not doubting you, but I'm confused how this can be. My understanding is generally ss the wavelength of the radio wave shrinks, signal through medium attenuation increases. What is it about 6GHz over 5GHz that provides that island of stability you're describing?
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in reply to The Picard Maneuver • • •I climbed up in the roof crawl space (by no stretch is it an "attic") and ran Cat6 to every room in my house 15 years ago. The living room and two smaller bedrooms got one, and the master bedroom got two.
I'm very happy with the upgrade. I also run WiFi, of course, for phones and tablets, and my kid's Steam Deck, etc.
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in reply to Midnight Wolf • • •Yeah I've never had colors but we used to run them in offices when we needed and we would just label or patch panels and I'd just tape the ends and mark a sharpie like A1, A2,...A8, B1 etc where A would be room and number would be the port. Then if you had multiple racks/closets we would do something like 224-C4 on the plate side, so you could say this is patched in in room 224, rack C, switch 4.
I remember after a hurricane we were moving my company to another building and installing everything, we had crabs under the floor in the tubes they had to run cables so you could access them in the center of rooms or in areas that wouldnt have an easy drop on the first floor. First time I ever had gotten pinched by a grab trying to get them out lol.
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in reply to Malica • • •I have a TP-Link router (with the wifi shut off) and three TP-Link PoE access points, and I still paid much less than that for the entire setup including cable to wire my house.
TP-Link is supposed to be the cheap alternative, FFS!
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People are mentioning buying from a spool but I am thinking more going to my local computer store,so there’s a some markup.
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They serve very different purposes.
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in reply to Feidry • • •T568B is the one everyone uses while T568A is the odd one.
I don't get what's particularly bad about T568A though? I was told it's just plain worse than T568B for anything faster than gigabit and I swear I never saw any store bought cables using it.
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in reply to Zanathos • • •There are 4 pairs of 2 wires, for 8 overall. They are all used, but the pairs are redundant. From what I understand, when you send a positive pulse on, say, the solid blue wire, you also send a negative pulse on the stripy blue and white wire. The twisted pairs should counteract any interference, but if it doesn't, the arrival of the bumps with opposite polarity should foolproof things a little.
Oh yeah it's called differential signalling.
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(The context is I was turning an Ethernet cable into an EtherCAT cable, which is a stupid industrial standard where you only wire up pins 1, 2, 3, and 6, and then charge the end user 500 times more for the cable.)
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in reply to adjectivenoun • • •There are two standards as it allows one to make a crossover cable. (Do B on one side and A on the other)
I also find crossover cables completely useless and refuse to own one less it gets mixed into the pile. Everyone has a router/switch, which negates the need completely.
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in reply to RamRabbit • • •Back at the beginning of ~~times~~ ethernet, you needed the crossover cables to connect routers to routers, switches to switches or end devices to end devices. They wouldn't work with the straight cables.
The standard still needs those cables to be crossover, but nowadays the port itself can detect what type of cable you connected, what type of cable it needs, and rewire itself to accept whatever you throw at it.
The same thing happens when you directly connect 2 PCs together without a switch in the middle. But the ports also adapt themselves and work it out.
You could also use a crossover cable, and your devices would figure it out too.
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in reply to Doom • • •I bought a cheap tool years ago and a few hundred feet of cat6 and some connectors and wall plates
ran my main AP off my own crimped cords for years without issue. speed tests always showed full speed
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in reply to The Picard Maneuver • • •It depends on the conditions Cables are always the winner, but I have an off grid cabin that has very poor cell reception. I usually end up getting less than 2 Mbps.
But my parents live about 400 meters away and have FTTH, in the countryside, because of a local cooperative.
I looked for using a fibre but it would cost several hundred dollars to have one that resists outdoor conditions in Quebec for a few years. So I settled for Wi-Fi. I get 10 Mbps with the two repeaters and very basic antenna alignment, which is better than 2.
I'd really like to use a cable but I'm only there a few weeks a year, so this works ok.
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in reply to Blaster M • • •I thought about Ethernet but apparently the run is too long, even with repeaters. It will probably not have enough power. It's also a few hundred dollars for 400 meters of direct burial Ethernet cable, without counting the injectors and repeaters.
And most importantly, I wonder how the equipment would fare during winter when the ground is frozen solid for several months.
But maybe my fear of a few -25°C days is not justified, as I already left a Raspberry Pi in a barn with those temperatures, and it did fine. I'd have to check the temperature operating range for the equipment I use.
That's why in the end, if I have to use a cable, I was leaning towards direct burial fibre, as it can easily cover that distance without messing with PoE on long runs, would "only" cost a few hundred dollars more, and avoid the need to try to protect the repeaters/switches.
I'm still curious though, so I guess I could just try it for fun with a cheap Ethernet cable run for a summer, then see if it's really worth investing a bit more for the future.
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in reply to Kyden Fumofly • • •Still a computer. And quite integral one. If it doesn't work, your internet and all devices that connects to it won't work. This is a device that has to work 24/7 and produce 0 issues at any time ad long ad it works. Higher end ones also have quite a bunch of useful settings and customization options. A normie might not need them, but a power user would appreciate these settings and how reliable this router is.
But for 750 that is overkill.
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in reply to PieMePlenty • • •One of the worst things about those routers other than having generally poor coverage despite looking like a Crown of Thorns was that if you actually took advantage of the more advanced features like VLANs, port forwarding, static routes, FTP and all that stuff and set it up… It inevitably seemed that there was a 99% chance that a firmware update would not allow you to restore a backup of the router config on the updated device!
That happened a couple times, spent days getting everything set up only to find out the firmware update refused to load a config made with an older version. F that. Never used those routers again.
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in reply to The Picard Maneuver • • •The router is useless-ish without the $3 snakey boi.
“Ish?” Because you could set it up as a Wireless repeater?
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in reply to heartSagan5 • • •Yes, some wireless routers can be used as repeaters.
Routers like that are really multi-purposes devices that handle routing, switching, and wireless.
If you're only using a local network, you can still have the wifi network and all your devices communicate through that. You just won't have internet access.
With out the router/switch, the cable's usefullness is reduced - at least in the networking application we're talking about (the cable itself is incredibly usesful for many other things besides ethernet). You can connect (most) devices directly together for communication, they'll just self assign an IP address.
In less words, you can have a network with just a wireless router and no cable, but you can't have a network with only a cable and no router (well, you can't with 'normal people' devices)(also you don't need a router for a local network, only a switch - but the home versions are often combo devices and just called a router).
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in reply to The Picard Maneuver • • •Appreciate the discussion, but I just need to say it:
This router looks like the cybertruck, in every way.
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in reply to The Picard Maneuver • • •Wireless data links should be the exclusive domain of temporary, nomadic and/or sacrificial links.
If the channel is permanent, static, or critical; as much of the path as practicable should be provisioned with constrained energy transmission.
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