Optimists of Lemmy, what gives you hope about the future?
I obviously have none, so I'd like to see if I can mooch off of you lol.
Please don't leave any pessimistic top level comments. Or do, I'm not your mom 🤷♂️.
I obviously have none, so I'd like to see if I can mooch off of you lol.
Please don't leave any pessimistic top level comments. Or do, I'm not your mom 🤷♂️.
CheerfulPassionFruit
in reply to scripty • • •anon6789
in reply to CheerfulPassionFruit • • •Getting together with other like-minded individuals and actually doing something with immediate results like this has been such a huge help for me personally.
Just achieving something, no matter how small, and doing it with others that have a similar vision of what a better future is I feel is such a great mood booster.
I got involved with wild animal rescue 2 years ago, and being around such cool people is awesome, and each life we save is undeniably making our local ecosystem healthier and stronger.
rezz
in reply to scripty • • •Norin
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in reply to ObtuseDoorFrame • • •GuyFawkesV
in reply to ieightpi • • •farmgineer
in reply to ieightpi • • •This doesn't bring me optimism, personally. Why is that a good or relevant thing at all?
ieightpi
in reply to farmgineer • • •farmgineer
in reply to ieightpi • • •ieightpi
in reply to farmgineer • • •But why rain on people's parade? we are all having a rough life right now and doing our best to get through it. Everyone should find solice in what helps be happy in life.
That's kinda the whole point of living. Being happy and finding meaning.
If this perspective doesn't help you, that's fine. But to hound people for theirs positivity because it doesn't align with your thinking is just part of the problem.
We shouldn't be treating each other shitty, we should all be trying to pull each other up. Dont let this oligarchs you talk about win by treating others poorly.
yesman
in reply to scripty • • •Nothing humans have ever done is unprecedented or even the worst example in nature. Chaining the atmosphere and causing climate change and mass extinction? Cyanobacteria laugh at humans.
Think plastic is bad? Early trees evolved millions of years before any bacteria or fungi could digest them. Early trees didn't rot, and they covered the land' clogged the rivers and oceans; and led to continent-wide wildfires. (they also sequestered so much carbon it caused an ice age).
Even what we do to each other isn't close to the worst examples in nature. Male bedbugs have a reproductive strategy called "traumatic insemination" wherein their stinger-like penis can just stab the female any where on her body. The females have a 25% higher mortality due to being stab-raped.
shalafi
in reply to yesman • • •The plastic thing has interested me for a long time. I bet my grandkids will be horrified at our casual use. Plastic wrapped single potatoes?! AHH! But nature can't ignore that monster energy source for long.
The Deepwater Horizon power dumped oil into the Gulf of Mexico. Scientists predicted decades of devastation. It was a big deal at the time, but nature healed almost supernaturally fast. (Not discounting the monstrous human effort!) We didn't think Gulf seafood would be edible for 10+ years, but even filter-feeding oysters where quick to be deemed safe.
Oil-eating microbes showed out and chowed down. After all, oil leaks were a natural thing long before humans, the bacteria were always there. This event was a feast. Nature can't let a compact energy source go to waste. :)
neidu4
in reply to scripty • • •Anthony Scaramoochi (or however he spells his name... yes, that guy) said it best. To paraphrase:
"Young people. The boomer generation (my generation), and all the losers associated with it spent all their political power in ruinous ways, and only emboldened the next generations in their political convictions and you already see a lot of them pointing correctly at where the faults lie, and how the geritocracy serves nobody"
Of all people to give an interesting interview lately, I really did not expect it to be him. You can find it pretty easily on youtube. It was called "38 minutes with..." or something like that. Maybe it was 28 minutes.
In other words, below a certain age, there is overwhelming support in working together for a better future for everyone. The current political class will die out with no heritage beyond everyone knowing how badly they fucked up.
givesomefucks
in reply to neidu4 • • •They basically have already...
But the corpse of James Carville will always stumble on.
But they lost the DNC, and progressives pretty much swept the primaries.
Even if you think the current DNC is just lying and the same as any neoliberal , he ran Minnesota for a decade. If his political goal is stop progress, he's comically inept at it.
Either way, it's a progressive wave and a 2028 presidential primary a progressive can easily win.
Today
in reply to scripty • • •echo
in reply to scripty • • •zd9
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in reply to GuyFawkesV • • •ChunkMcHorkle
in reply to echo • • •You're right.
"Soon" means different things to different people, and I would not hazard to define when. But no matter which way you time it, between the failing body he inhabits, the murderous inner circle of sycophants who all want his power, the crimes he openly commits, the women and girls he has wronged, and the sheer number of paybacks both large and small that this motherfucker is racking up daily around the world, I completely agree: dude is not long for this earth.
There will be a day when this world is again a place without him in it, where the madness of yesterday turns into cold revulsion at the memory of the disease he was, where they stop running his pictures in the media because he is no longer among the living, where his name gets mentioned less and less, and every time it does it is necessarily in the past tense and people here are bitching that anyone is still talking about him.
Goddamn I feel better already, lol
carrylex
in reply to scripty • • •shalafi
in reply to carrylex • • •I often bring up that traditional and social media reporting doesn't reflect reality because only the unusual is reported. Self-driving Tesla flattens a dude in the dark? BIG NEWS. Same happens with a regular car, not a blip on your local station.
Wildly frivolous lawsuit? Oh yeah, you gonna hear about it. You won't hear about the thousands of idiots who got shot down before they're off the phone with their lawyer and the thousands that judges toss, nor the millions where everything works as expected.
Man shoots his family? National news. Same family gets smeared off the interstate? Another local blip.
brucethemoose
in reply to scripty • • •Not being on Lemmy.
Seriously. This place is pretty… well, I have it blocked on my phone along with some other time sucking/doomscrolling sites, and it’s definitely better for my mental health.
kayzeekayzee
in reply to brucethemoose • • •brucethemoose
in reply to kayzeekayzee • • •Yeah, like scripty said, I access it on my desktop or have it time locked on my phone.
And I only do the browser, no app.
A_A
in reply to scripty • • •What works well thrives, loves, lives and prosper. What doesn't and hates, eventually is superseded, or destroys itself, or shrinks and dies.
This applies to ideas, political movements, civilizations and even species.
Life is a self-organizing mechanism, operating throughout the universe, that, although for a time produces suffering, does eventually find solutions against illnesses. By doing so, it rearranges itself into better configurations.
i do want to believe in a better future and because of that i don't even believe that the Big Bang Theory, with its conclusion of the heat death of the universe, is entirely true.
missingno
in reply to scripty • • •I do believe that most things will get better in the end. Maybe not everything, and maybe not as quickly as you like. Maybe some things get worse before they get better. But for every one thing that gets worse, two things do get better.
Consider where humanity was 100, 200, 300, 400 years ago. Every generation ends up being better off than the last.
shalafi
in reply to missingno • • •VibeSurgeon
in reply to scripty • • •shalafi
in reply to VibeSurgeon • • •I like this one! Trump's admin is trying to slam the breaks, but they can only control federal money, imports and federal land. The market, from the big dogs on down, demands green energy. Forget global warming for a moment, there are perfectly selfish reasons the market wants cheap energy.
Look at little ol' me. My power bill is hilariously low, probably $90 this month, but I still want at least some solar. They can cut the tax rebate, but they can't stop me. Also, I'm in the county, no one will ever know if I put "porch power" in my backyard.
Katana314
in reply to VibeSurgeon • • •This always inspires me, even if admittedly the USA burned its chances of being a global leader in that space in the last 5 years or so.
Biden tried to make it a red state industry, and had a lot of buy-in from senators that wanted the jobs. But, they chose hatred-suicide with Trump. Others will take over, just sad America won’t really be a part of it.
TheMinions
in reply to scripty • • •Gurren Lagann.
But also how we collectively fixed the ozone layer. Makes me hopeful we can find a solution to climate change.
shalafi
in reply to TheMinions • • •arotrios
in reply to scripty • • •People have been prophesying the end of the world for about as long as we have written records.
Yet the world never ends. It changes.
Often suddenly, violently, and without warning - but it does not end.
What we are experiencing is the beginnings of a violent change, one in which most of our familiar world can be ripped away from us at any time.
But it is not an end. It's evolutionary pressure. And if you look at speed of human ingenuity and advancement within the course of just a century, we're on course to keep up and survive this change.
Not all of us, of course, but as a species, absolutely - although we'll likely look very different as a species once the change we're going through is complete.
Now I'm not talking out my ass here. I'm an early climate refugee - wildfire took my family home five years ago, and I've seen the forests I've walked through as a child burnt to ash. The entire neighborhood was erased.
It's now regrowing. Not the same, but the lilies my mother planted still bloom in the empty lot where the house used to be. The
... Mostrar másPeople have been prophesying the end of the world for about as long as we have written records.
Yet the world never ends. It changes.
Often suddenly, violently, and without warning - but it does not end.
What we are experiencing is the beginnings of a violent change, one in which most of our familiar world can be ripped away from us at any time.
But it is not an end. It's evolutionary pressure. And if you look at speed of human ingenuity and advancement within the course of just a century, we're on course to keep up and survive this change.
Not all of us, of course, but as a species, absolutely - although we'll likely look very different as a species once the change we're going through is complete.
Now I'm not talking out my ass here. I'm an early climate refugee - wildfire took my family home five years ago, and I've seen the forests I've walked through as a child burnt to ash. The entire neighborhood was erased.
It's now regrowing. Not the same, but the lilies my mother planted still bloom in the empty lot where the house used to be. There are young oaks sprouting that are now 7' tall, and along with the lilies, my mother's rosebush survived. People have started to rebuild, and in another 5 years the neighborhood and surrounding forest will be thriving again.
I don't believe in endings anymore. I believe in change. And this gives me hope for the future because I know that no matter how bad things get, they will eventually change for the better.
Of course, this also means that no matter how good things get, they'll eventually change for the worse - so you may as well savor and appreciate the good things in your life while they're here.
Or as the Buddhists like to say:
"This too shall pass"
Or as I like to sing:
"Wabababa!"
Balduin x Masha Ray - Wabababa
BALDUIN OFFICIAL (SoundCloud)shalafi
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in reply to scripty • • •RumRunningDevil
in reply to Evil_Incarnate • • •It's funny, I agree with you and that is specifically what does not give me hope.
My biggest fear is that we won't get terminators, or that we'll get UBI and no one will have to work anymore.
In either case, Sisyphus will no longer have a boulder to push and that is a nightmare.
shalafi
in reply to RumRunningDevil • • •RumRunningDevil
in reply to shalafi • • •Yeah see, this is the problem.
The post scarcity "pursue your passions" model doesn't work unless you're an actual hedonistic degenerate. For the rest of us this is an actual nightmare. I am really not looking forward to the day when I don't need to work.
shalafi
in reply to RumRunningDevil • • •RumRunningDevil
in reply to shalafi • • •Something to do with purpose I imagine? I feel the same way. I'd like to be useful to others. Not like 'good conversationalist' useful; useful the way a shovel is useful.
I find it's not something well understood.
shalafi
in reply to RumRunningDevil • • •MajorMajormajormajor
in reply to Evil_Incarnate • • •Damn, they be turning space gay now too? When will the madness end!?
/s~incase it wasn't obvious~
HurricaneLiz
in reply to MajorMajormajormajor • • •Malica
in reply to scripty • • •kreskin
in reply to Malica • • •shalafi
in reply to scripty • • •History gives me hope. It's funny/not-funny seeing people on Western social media freak out like this is the end of all things. Human history is cyclic, and America in particular is on a monster downswing. Consider Europe in 1940 vs. 1960 vs. 1990 vs. 2020. Pretty radical changes for the better! China's up to bat to run the 21st century. Let's see how that plays.
Global warming is the only new thing in the room. But humans are the AR-15s of the animal world. Not the best at anything, but multi-purpose and wildly adaptable for whatever use case is required. Humans now live in places where even insects can't hang! We'll be fine. Eventually.
RBWells
in reply to scripty • • •Kids are nicer now.
I am more listened to at work (as a woman) than in the past.
We did clean up Tampa Bay, and at least the clean energy tech is growing so fast.
So, so so much less violent here than when I was a kid
Marn
in reply to scripty • • •We're getting to see how bad things get before people change their minds. And people are, it's slow and there are holdouts as well as people that just do not want good things for anyone besides themselves/their tribe.
I think the global right is pulling all the cards they have to try and pull the world into war and chaos and even as bad as it is it's not going their way. The more authoritarianism is pushed the more people wake up to their delusions.
In the states you have DSA members actually getting seats, you have people caring about flock and privacy that would have a few years ago brought the story that it's for their own protection. You have Generals and officials resigning in droves because they refuse to be apart of another forever war. You have a whole generation being aware the the US/Israel colonialism and even things like police violence.
If we as a species are going to build a world that's built for peaceful coexistence we have to wake up to what is not working. All of the bad things that are happening are cycles and patterns that have been going on f
... Mostrar másWe're getting to see how bad things get before people change their minds. And people are, it's slow and there are holdouts as well as people that just do not want good things for anyone besides themselves/their tribe.
I think the global right is pulling all the cards they have to try and pull the world into war and chaos and even as bad as it is it's not going their way. The more authoritarianism is pushed the more people wake up to their delusions.
In the states you have DSA members actually getting seats, you have people caring about flock and privacy that would have a few years ago brought the story that it's for their own protection. You have Generals and officials resigning in droves because they refuse to be apart of another forever war. You have a whole generation being aware the the US/Israel colonialism and even things like police violence.
If we as a species are going to build a world that's built for peaceful coexistence we have to wake up to what is not working. All of the bad things that are happening are cycles and patterns that have been going on for longer than any of us have been alive and I think there's a good chance we will see old cycles finally break in our life time
ChunkMcHorkle
in reply to Marn • • •Yes. Because they got greedy and tried to do the fast grab, they got the average person's attention and we actually have a chance.
I just watched a Guardian short of Tel Aviv, where thousands (their number) are marching in the streets ahead of the Israeli elections, wanting Netanyahu out. What was most telling were the people they stopped to talk with, who all seem aware of just how involved Netanyahu was in the events of October 7 and keeping the war going: the people marching want peace in their region, and they recognize that Bibi is war. One guy was saying something like, "We've been through October 7th, and the fact that the government that is responsible for it are even running again is insane. They should have been gone like the day after."
It's a far cry from the nationalistic shit we get fed daily on the other side of the world, to say the least. People are waking up. And the more they do, the better chance we have.
Thousands rally against Netanyahu in Tel Aviv ahead of Israeli elections
Guardian News (YouTube)Marn
in reply to ChunkMcHorkle • • •I think a lot of what they are doing has been planned for decades but it does feel rushed. All of the war mongering factions are making moves like they won't be able to do it if they don't act now. Thankfully a lot of their structures are controlled by incompetent fools and nepo babies
They know the world is going to change a lot over the next few decades and they want to control that as much as possible. I sometimes wonder if they know something major is coming, like the gulf stream clasping or another major climate event.
When the people stand as one there won't be much they can do. They are quite adept at keeping us fighting each other though
Katana314
in reply to Marn • • •CultLeader4Hire
in reply to scripty • • •Im just born like this tbh
I was in the ICU for six months once, even on what every probability said was going to be my deathbed I was hopeful a new set of lungs would come and I would get my transplant, and they did. I had one moment in those six months where I really did think “this could be it” but even that, it was a maybe, I always had hope. I think I would have died hopeful.
For me it’s just an inborne trait or at least a trait I developed so early I don’t remember not being like this
ramenshaman
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Jesse Jonas (YouTube)storm_shadow
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in reply to storm_shadow • • •FlashMobOfOne
in reply to scripty • • •There's one thing that's happened this year that inspired actual hope in me.
I made a video about Flock buying out their employees and, in researching it, learned that Flock (as of a month ago) had lost nearly 400 contracts in 36 states. An independent outfit is tracking it because, obviously, major media outlets don't want to talk about the unpopularity of fascism.
Thing is, this accelerated last summer, which means a lot of people who are otherwise apolitical are going to city council meetings and doing boring, pedestrian and effective political organizing for a good cause.
That is objectively a good thing.
Is Flock Safety Collapsing? The Buyout Bombshell And The Mass Surveillance Backlash
Sacrilegious Heathen (YouTube)nullspace
in reply to scripty • • •Jankatarch
in reply to scripty • • •GreenKnight23
in reply to scripty • • •two things
that's about it.
WoodScientist
in reply to scripty • • •Global warming cannot cause humanity to go extinct. Nuclear war cannot cause humanity to go extinct. Population decline cannot cause humanity to go extinct.
If you think any of these are possible, you do not know enough about global warming, nuclear war, or population decline.
In short, things may get very, very, very bad. But hope springs eternal. And there are very, very few scenarios that won't leave many millions of people alive to pick up the pieces.
Varpeggio
in reply to WoodScientist • • •MinnesotaGoddam
in reply to Varpeggio • • •ol_capt_joe
in reply to scripty • • •There's a quote from HBO's Chernobyl series:
All these fucking guys who've made monsters of themselves to pretend they're our masters - they'll all fail. Their lies are a patchwork of tapestries meant to hide from reality. The bigger it gets, the more it wants to fall. Pull a thread, watch it unravel.
eightpix
in reply to ol_capt_joe • • •What is the cost of lies?
Fleeting Time (YouTube)rodneylives
in reply to scripty • • •HurricaneLiz
in reply to rodneylives • • •MinnesotaGoddam
in reply to scripty • • •This is a bit trite, but there are a lot of delicious foods to eat, and so many cats to give scritches to. Concerts to hear. Songs to sing.
I was at the Musical Instrument Museum in Phoenix and they had a violin made out of literal trash. It's a testament to people's resilience and yearning to create. There are so many wonderfully creative people out there, I'll never have the time to consume the every good bit, especially when I feel well enough to create stuff of my own. I love seeing the things people, especially people I care about, create.
Treczoks
in reply to scripty • • •Broken_Orange_Juice
in reply to scripty • • •Pet a cat when you encounter one on the street
There are plenty of street cats where I live
Even the broken clock that is Jordan Peterson can be right every once in a blue moon
BilboBargains
in reply to scripty • • •jubilationtcornpone
in reply to scripty • • •I think Gen X and younger are, overall, better at dealing with emotional issues than their parents and grandparents. Granted, there's definitely still room for improvement.
But it's no longer considered socially acceptable (much less preferable) to use your kids as a piñata to vent your anger on instead of seeking therapy. It's also far more common for parents to show physical and verbal affection toward their kids. Something my (boomer) parents virtually never did. Probably because that's the dynamic they were taught.
I dont have any firm evidence to back this claim up, but conversations with parents that are relatively close to me in age has shown that I'm not the only one who has observed this trend.
potoooooooo 🥔
in reply to jubilationtcornpone • • •Jumi
in reply to scripty • • •Sometimes it's just enough to be kind myself and get a genuine smile in reaction.
Being kind to cashiers, giving up my seat to the elderly, holding the door for someone or having a trans person seem relieved and sit next to me on the train because the see the flag on my jacket.
It's the little things that keep our society together.
Corkyskog
in reply to scripty • • •Jumi
in reply to Corkyskog • • •Yeah, we only read about right-wing successes but let's not forget that the lefts all over the world are getting stronger every day, every election.
So many elections show that the majority of people don't want to be ruled by fascists.
Krudler
in reply to scripty • • •twitchingbits
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in reply to scripty • • •scripty
in reply to northernlights • • •I'm sorry to hear that. Hang in there man, it's supposed to get better.
- fellow unemployed job seeker
HurricaneLiz
in reply to scripty • • •the_riviera_kid
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in reply to scripty • • •History.
No really looking at all the crazy stuff that happened in the past, you realize these aren't unprecedented times, at least as far as tragedy goes, but the truly unprecedented part is how much less shitty things are in comparison. Not even with technology but with social progress.
It doesn't feel like it but when you think that within the lifetime of people alive we had segregated bathrooms and pools and that seems insane now, that's at least some hope.
Kaligalis
in reply to scripty • • •Carlos Solís
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