I cannot overstate how much the revolution needs kind, reliable, people who show up when you need them and does not need drug-addled cut-rate Hunter S. Thompson impersonators.
@mxchara @Fruan I'm with you, it was part show part protest. Issue is a lot of young men didnt get the message or the joke. I do wonder if be perpetuated the concept of the edge lord because of the lack of comprehension.
@ahhhhhhhhhhh @Fruan I am not sure yet but I wish to find out. A lot depends (in my opinion) on how Hunter Thompson responded to becoming the idol of Johnny Depp and a bunch of other Hollywood libertines, after Terry Gilliam made his movie
@mxchara @Fruan haha yeah, my take as someone who grew up with all that noise. It was a show, I wouldnt idolise the man (hes got demons like everyone). But I do see his works to be an interesting take on politics and counter culture in mid 20th century America. The books and movie are a different breed too. Like comparing fight club the movie and fight club the book.
@ahhhhhhhhhhh @mxchara @Fruan I got the impression the reason Hunter S Thompson shot himself was a surprisingly pragmatic one.
He was in poor mental and physical health with chronic pain (including effects of various injuries from motorcycle crashes, and a recent hip replacement). His previous drug use would have meant he had significant tolerance to the medications that would normally help a senior with similar conditions, so would have had no other easy way out..
Which is a warning to all that lifestyle *will* catch up with you if you don't get out of it in time (I was lucky I did, many of my friends didn't)
In any case, constant gonzo behaviour ends up making you look like a muppet..
@vfrmedia @ahhhhhhhhhhh @Fruan I suppose. There's something odd about the whole business but in reviewing what I could find about the weeks leading up to Hunter Thompson's suicide, I find only the usual flat unhelpful police-polished news about it, mostly, although at least Anita Thompson is on record as enduring weeks of suicidal talk from Hunter Thompson.
@vfrmedia @ahhhhhhhhhhh @Fruan Maybe it was just a pragmatic decision about being old and sick but, Hunter being Hunter, I find it very difficult to believe that he wasn't chewing on some far more substantial thing in contemplating suicide.
@mxchara @ahhhhhhhhhhh @Fruan I worked on maintenance team in a senior care home, one of the patients was a very smart engineer who became a national celebrity for his robots and other projects, but went down badly from dementia.
The effects of ageing and declining health can be /very/ substantial, especially losing capacity if you have been someone who has been independent and active - I can fully understand why someone noticing a decline in physical and mental capacity would want to end things whilst they still can (its something that worries me personally as I go further into middle age)
@vfrmedia @mxchara @Fruan memory is supper sketchy here but based off what I was reading at the time (his own works leading into it). It was a jenga tower of reason's. But is how he said he would always go out... Soooo 🤷♀️.
@vfrmedia @mxchara @Fruan will say this though George W Bush Jr was 100% one of those reasons. Hunter said so himself. Im paraphrasing but basically. Ive seen this clown show before and its worse second time around and I'm too tired to fight these bastard's anymore.
@Fruan 3/4 too many. So like he was 75% too much. I haven't come across any of the new generation HSTs though I guess somenof the vice docs are close to what you are saying. Was HST an original influencer?
Don't know who Hunter S. Thompson is, but I agree. We need kind, reliable people who CARE about others. We need people with empathy and actually care about how things affect others. Not these greedy politicians and corporations who only care about themselves.
Reliable, sure. Kind, at some point that can be exploited by the opposition against ourselves, unfortunately, so we also need firm people in the team as well.
The world wouldn't work without kind and reliable people. But please don't slander people like me and Mr Hunter Thompson, without crazy we wouldn't be human. Not everyone can be expected to be sane under the onslaught of existence.
@Madagascar_Sky I think sanity is overrated. Our entire civilisation has gone mad, it has been headed for collective suicide ever since the steam engine went mainstream in the late 18th/early 19th century, and it's getting worse the closer we get to the edge. How can people stay sane while being trapped in this asylum which is our modern industrial civilisation?
@jeffmcneill Specifics aside, you're directly contradicting the point she's trying to make and presenting it as though it's a compromise. That's baffling.
I dont know if we need more real Hunter S. Thompsons in the world either, defineatly not someting to aspire to be. But I guess if a future H.S.T. is reading this, or mahbe just someone who finds themselves in a similar situation, the best thing that could that could be done is bringing people together in a genuine fashion, less drugs and more art that inspires human connection goes a long way...
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I used to run into so many. Found among the young lads along with the slightly less popular dime-store Bukowskis.
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in reply to Mx. Chara Aznable of Pnictogen • • •It was a show, I wouldnt idolise the man (hes got demons like everyone). But I do see his works to be an interesting take on politics and counter culture in mid 20th century America.
The books and movie are a different breed too. Like comparing fight club the movie and fight club the book.
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I got the impression the reason Hunter S Thompson shot himself was a surprisingly pragmatic one.
He was in poor mental and physical health with chronic pain (including effects of various injuries from motorcycle crashes, and a recent hip replacement). His previous drug use would have meant he had significant tolerance to the medications that would normally help a senior with similar conditions, so would have had no other easy way out..
Which is a warning to all that lifestyle *will* catch up with you if you don't get out of it in time (I was lucky I did, many of my friends didn't)
In any case, constant gonzo behaviour ends up making you look like a muppet..
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@mxchara @ahhhhhhhhhhh @Fruan
I worked on maintenance team in a senior care home, one of the patients was a very smart engineer who became a national celebrity for his robots and other projects, but went down badly from dementia.
The effects of ageing and declining health can be /very/ substantial, especially losing capacity if you have been someone who has been independent and active - I can fully understand why someone noticing a decline in physical and mental capacity would want to end things whilst they still can (its something that worries me personally as I go further into middle age)
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in reply to Eh • • •Ive seen this clown show before and its worse second time around and I'm too tired to fight these bastard's anymore.
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in reply to VANTABlack • • •@VANTABlack2000 Hunter S. Thompson used to work at our local chippie along with a guy who swore that he was Elvis.
Who was probably not telling the truth either.
youtu.be/QccPUSTMriM
Kirsty MacColl - There's a guy works down the chip shop, swears he's Elvis 1981
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Here's the low-down on Hunter S. Thompson.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_S._Thompson
Hunter S. Thompson - Wikipedia
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in reply to evacide • • •I agree - it’s constant caring work that gets things done in the end.
And yet: whenever a certain kind of person dies, I feel sad that Thompson is no longer around to write their obituary.
60sand70samerica.voices.wooster.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/101/2024/03/thompson-he-was-a-crook.pdf
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