Reddit is killing RSS feeds and ending public API access because of AI bots
Reddit is killing RSS feeds and ending public API access because of AI bots | TechCrunch
Reddit is ending support for RSS feeds, as the company continues tightening access to its trove of user-generated content.Sarah Perez (TechCrunch)
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cheese_greater
in reply to return2ozma • • •DaddleDew
in reply to return2ozma • • •Reddit never gave a shit about bots. To them it's something that pumps up their active users numbers to woo their investors. They're only doing this so they can force people to view their ads that are designed to look like posts.
Who goes on Reddit nowadays anyway?
tf1
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in reply to lagg_mine • • •UnequalExchange
in reply to thru_dangers_untold • • •BuckFutter
in reply to UnequalExchange • • •UnequalExchange
in reply to BuckFutter • • •Lemmy doesnt have a laundry dedicated community anywhere that Ive looked.... reddit does however....
So I guess the Lemmings let mama and dada do their laundry for them still 😅
BuckFutter
in reply to UnequalExchange • • •UnequalExchange
in reply to BuckFutter • • •there's so many things that go into laundry care that mostt people need to know about but will never choose to learn about
Like iif your detergent uses certain enzymes then you cant use that detergent to clean wool clothing....but the thing is that like 95 % or more of all detergents have enzymes in them....so....
Also if you live in apartment building what rights do you have to clean out your washing machines' filters? What ability do you have to clean those filters?
Also which detergents are asstastically bad scams and should never be considered as detergents? Which detergents are actually good? Which companies have bribed those in the media to make it look.like their laundry based products work bbetter than theey actually do? Which detergents shoupd you consider for different msterials? How mucj will they cost over time? SHould you just make asnd use your own homemade detergents?
also Do homemade eco friendly fabric softeners exist and should you even use fabric softeners at all?
How good are copper and lamolin coated clothing at clesning themselve
... Mostrar másthere's so many things that go into laundry care that mostt people need to know about but will never choose to learn about
Like iif your detergent uses certain enzymes then you cant use that detergent to clean wool clothing....but the thing is that like 95 % or more of all detergents have enzymes in them....so....
Also if you live in apartment building what rights do you have to clean out your washing machines' filters? What ability do you have to clean those filters?
Also which detergents are asstastically bad scams and should never be considered as detergents? Which detergents are actually good? Which companies have bribed those in the media to make it look.like their laundry based products work bbetter than theey actually do? Which detergents shoupd you consider for different msterials? How mucj will they cost over time? SHould you just make asnd use your own homemade detergents?
also Do homemade eco friendly fabric softeners exist and should you even use fabric softeners at all?
How good are copper and lamolin coated clothing at clesning themselves as both of these substances have been found to have anti microbial properties?
How do other regions that dont have easy access to washing machines and dryers do their laundry? Can we take any advice from theiir methods?
How eco friendly are certain types oof clothingsa and even certain types of washing methods? It has been. shown that some of the biggest polluters of microplastics into our world today are microscopic specks from cleaning aritficial fabrics like polyester
Ar ethere any scam washing machines or dryers in the msrket today? How can we tell that they are garbage at cleaning and drying clothing?
When you hhang dry clothing what types of methods could you use to ensure that you dont promote the growth of certain hydrophobic microbes?
The topics go on and on....
Lemmy has no community dedicated to talking about any of these topics...
UnequalExchange
in reply to lagg_mine • • • There isnt even an intactivism community here bruh!!!
Heck there isnt even LAUNDRY community on Lemmy!?! How yall existed for this long with no laundry community yall?!?
EowynCarter
in reply to lagg_mine • • •That's the problem with changing social networks.
People goes where people are. So it takes some major scew up from the current networks. Or a newcomer that have some killer feature everybody will want / need.
And lemmy lacks that "killer feature"
Bilb!
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in reply to 404found • • •UnequalExchange
in reply to bedwyr • • •the problem with uBlock there is thst sometimes on reddit they post like 'Advertisement Posts' ...Like actual posts that are not about that niche community in anyway but are nothing more than an advertisement for a comoany and uBlack obviously cant block that.
Ive seen it a few times in the past but its been like 4 years since Ive been on reddit so I dont know if theyve stopped doing that.
Iusedtobeanalien
in reply to DaddleDew • • •I'm banned
Permanently
You are banned for this comment which you can't see
Bastards!
Zagorath
in reply to DaddleDew • • •BillionaireStew
in reply to Zagorath • • •GitHub - redlib-org/redlib: Private front-end for Reddit
GitHubeddanja
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in reply to eddanja • • •aeronmelon
in reply to return2ozma • • •Yeah…
AI bots….
That’s why.
UnequalExchange
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in reply to return2ozma • • •Those RSS feeds have been so heavily rate-limited over the past year that they were practically unusable already. I'm glad they're finally making an announcement about it. No more ambiguity. No more aggressively sporadic 403 and 429 errors.
Go ahead and kill the only reason I ever used your site.
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in reply to return2ozma • • •DrSoap
in reply to Krudler • • •Krudler
in reply to DrSoap • • •Really? Wow. I have no way of really knowing for sure but I am pretty convinced that they reached maximum saturation of their user base 10 years ago... That's why there was this sudden whiplash pivot to forcing Indian, Pakistani, and the European content to the front page.
I saw that as the indicator that the North American market had been penetrated as far as they were going to penetrate, and they were looking abroad.
Now with what you're telling me it's making me question reality, I don't think there's a person on the planet that isn't aware of reddit, I think people just don't want to use it anymore!
Question, where have you noticed these advertisements?
cmnybo
in reply to return2ozma • • •DaddleDew
in reply to cmnybo • • •walden
in reply to return2ozma • • •The reddit community that I'm still sort of active in relies on RSS in order to run and judge contests. We have a portal which sucks comments in via RSS because they revoked the API key which was used for the same purpose.
Without RSS, we'll either have to come up with some other way to pull in reddit comments, or force everyone to use PieFed.
My vote is for the latter, of course!
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in reply to feral_sh • • •feral_sh
in reply to DudeImMacGyver • • •A literal corpo!!! In the flesh! With human rights!
Damnit what have we become?!?!?
idiomaddict
in reply to feral_sh • • •LovelyMover
in reply to return2ozma • • •I posted on a food sub, saying "that looks incredible* something innocuous like that.
Bot removes my post, contact mode team because I cannot quite believe what I read. Auto mod, (cannot believe it was a human), tells me the same thing. Reddit has profiled me as being disruptive & I can post once I have "improved my standing"
Things like this are a red rag to me, always have been. Anyway, the food sub is muted, & reddit can get fucked, I'll post my opinions whether any bot likes it or not till I'm inevitably banned for failure to "conform" to their disgusting agenda.
aim4harmony
in reply to LovelyMover • • •whaleross
in reply to LovelyMover • • •I was in a discussion on the post election political situation in Sweden right now and from nowhere my five year old account got flagged as "suspicious" and locked until verified. For whatever reason it refused to hit me with CAPTCHA and the likes. I had no email registered previously and could not verify. I tried a couple of temp email but got no verification sent there. So I registered a throw away at a legitimate email provider and changed it there. Nothing there either.
But I also have mods and at least one admin that doesn't like me from long ago because I make fun of Nazis. So maybe I am "suspicious".
wazoobonkerbrain
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in reply to return2ozma • • •raspirate
in reply to dukatos • • •I've been wondering about something like this for years. Websites have been aggressively enshittifying for a long time now. Everything defends against accessing their content via any unapproved means. Getting a full resolution image from anywhere via image search becomes more difficult every day. If a search engine lands you on a site, the site deliberately withholds the content that brought you there and dangles the carrot to keep you using the site for as long as possible, always making sure you fall just short of what you're after so you keep looking. Most links that you share directly from your URL bar are littered with telemetry data so that unless you first sanitize the link, sharing it on social media means that now the site is able to link your session to the account that shared the link and map your social connections on platforms they don't even own.
I have a foreboding of a future internet where everything, even the structure of URLs themselves is obscured behind a layer that is opaque to the end user. People will be completely locked in to only using the site in
... Mostrar másI've been wondering about something like this for years. Websites have been aggressively enshittifying for a long time now. Everything defends against accessing their content via any unapproved means. Getting a full resolution image from anywhere via image search becomes more difficult every day. If a search engine lands you on a site, the site deliberately withholds the content that brought you there and dangles the carrot to keep you using the site for as long as possible, always making sure you fall just short of what you're after so you keep looking. Most links that you share directly from your URL bar are littered with telemetry data so that unless you first sanitize the link, sharing it on social media means that now the site is able to link your session to the account that shared the link and map your social connections on platforms they don't even own.
I have a foreboding of a future internet where everything, even the structure of URLs themselves is obscured behind a layer that is opaque to the end user. People will be completely locked in to only using the site in an approved manner from an active account in "good standing" with the platform. You can use the site as normal as long as you're logged in, but the URL itself would only ever be something like website.com/sU6ecjejfE32Jy7w94. You could share that link as normal and people could click it and be directed to the thing you want to share, but they can't view the content without logging in, and even if they don't log in, the mere fact that they clicked it still links the two of you together in the user map. Nothing ever escapes the sandbox and nobody is able to share content from the site unless they accessed it from approved means, and they can only share it to others who are also using approved means. The more websites adopt this model, the more user-mapping takes place until eventually anonymity on the internet is completely dead. Every single site knows exactly who everyone is and every social connection that they have. Everyone who refuses to submit to this new paradigm is blocked from accessing the site at all, yet they are still mapped all the same. Making a new website that's this restrictive would probably mean that it never gets off the ground, but making that change on a platform where users are already dependent and tolerating increasing levels of enshittification just might work. If one major platform pulls it off, others will follow.
OctopusNemeses
in reply to raspirate • • •The world wide web a legacy platform at this point. It's treated as such by both the tech industry and average people. Most people use social media through apps. All the government organizations and banks are consolidating their services to apps. Nobody makes their own websites anymore.
The reality hasn't sunk in yet for the rest of us, but it's happening. We assumed it would be a forever thing once it was created. It turns out the world wide web is going to be brief historical period at the turn of the century that you tell your grandkids about.
Maybe some day the PC will go back to being a novelty appliance found in few living rooms. Where you have to power it up, sign on, and browse the few handful of websites in existence. When you're done, you turn it off and go about your day again.
fodor
in reply to return2ozma • • •No, they aren't. The headline is just a giant lie. Why would anyone pretend to believe it?
Reddit was destroyed by bots years ago. So that's nonsense. But they have two strong reasons to pull public access. First, if the public has access to the data, then companies won't buy it for AI training. Second, if the public has access to the data, they can prove (as we already knew) that Reddit is full of bots, so there is no reason you would want to buy training data from it.
tempest
in reply to fodor • • •madcaesar
in reply to tempest • • •berrodeguarana
in reply to return2ozma • • •I know we all collectively hate Reddit here - no sarcasm on my end -, but I hate to think what it's gonna be like 10 years from now.
The sheer amount of good information I've obtained from Reddit over these last 15 years: mental, physical health, nutrition, tech, jobs... all for free, as it should be! It's insane when you think about it.
Imagining a world where I'll have to get charged to search every little thing, and yet get biased information due to ads and marketing... All of this sucks so much.
How are you guys gonna cope with this? What do you intend to do in the future I mean.
Regrettable_incident
in reply to berrodeguarana • • •partofthevoice
in reply to berrodeguarana • • •Doomsider
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in reply to Doomsider • • •Hueristic_Autistic
in reply to partofthevoice • • •The information will still be there as long as they don't remove entire posts by users who have deleted their user names and keep an archive going.
Someone should be making a reddit archive site. Like an exact read-only clone to retain all the information people have access to before they remove it all to accommodate Ai on their servers.
partofthevoice
in reply to Hueristic_Autistic • • •Hueristic_Autistic
in reply to partofthevoice • • •Captain Aggravated
in reply to partofthevoice • • •you mean r/jailbait?
Nugscree
in reply to Captain Aggravated • • •Hubi
in reply to berrodeguarana • • •rumba
in reply to Hubi • • •Regrettable_incident
in reply to rumba • • •rumba
in reply to Regrettable_incident • • •no time like the present to create it on lemmy and recruit in DM's :)
best yet, you could DM the historians with the best mannerisms.
Once you get a number of reasonable posts on this side, you could ask people on their site for assistance on questions from here :) lowkey advertising until they shut you down over there.
Regrettable_incident
in reply to rumba • • •Zonetrooper
in reply to rumba • • •So. Early, early on I did reach out to a couple of them.
Unfortunately, there are some frankly terrible communities on Lemmy who engage in some pretty awful hatred and historical denialism, and they weren't interested in moving to a community that wouldn't dissociate with that, much less one that is actively run by the same people.
And like, we can repeat to the end of time that Lemmy is a distributed community and each instance's choices don't reflect on others. But the reality is that people do look at the largest instances not shutting that crap out, and it does color their perceptions.
BillionaireStew
in reply to berrodeguarana • • •Ending the public API also prevents reddit users from deleting their post history without manually removing each post.
If you want to scrub your post history and prevent reddit from profiting from your input, use Power Delete Suite while you still can.
github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite
It is unlikely that reddit allows users to delete their content from the backend but this at least keeps your posts out of search results, which is a large part of their value.
GitHub - j0be/PowerDeleteSuite: Power Delete Suite for Reddit
GitHubdialektisk
in reply to BillionaireStew • • •Auth
in reply to berrodeguarana • • •Nugscree
in reply to Auth • • •Zonetrooper
in reply to berrodeguarana • • •This. It was a golden age of information and community availability, and it's going to be hard to put that back together. Especially since the prior eras of distributed sites, we had functioning search engines.
And yeah, sure, it can be rebuilt... but there's going to be a long time of awful isolation until it is.
w3dd1e
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in reply to w3dd1e • • •gwl [he/him]
in reply to return2ozma • • •We all know they really were just looking for any excuse
JcbAzPx
in reply to gwl [he/him] • • •ReluctantMuskrat
in reply to gwl [he/him] • • •grous
in reply to gwl [he/him] • • •They killed access to old Reddit without an account a couple months ago. Also i saw some people can't access the new one without an account but i guess they are rolling out that one slowly.
They're making the website viewable only with an account.
zack822
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join-lemmy.orgkingkong
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in reply to return2ozma • • •Lol Reddit
I actually forgot about Reddit in the same way I forgot about Friendster... Which I want to point out is also still around and being used by real people, somehow.
gilokee
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raven55six
in reply to return2ozma • • •Denfa
in reply to return2ozma • • •Even the subreddits for hobbyists are affected.
I’ll save a sad memory for the glory days but it’s time to move on.
Denfa
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