Reddit is killing RSS feeds and ending public API access because of AI bots


in reply to return2ozma

Reddit never gave a shit about bots. To them it's something that pumps up their active users numbers to woo their investors. They're only doing this so they can force people to view their ads that are designed to look like posts.

Who goes on Reddit nowadays anyway?

Esta entrada fue editada (miércoles, 30 de septiembre de 2026, 23:42)
in reply to BuckFutter
in reply to UnequalExchange
hahaha, well consider me one of today's lucky 10,000 then.
Well if you ever decide to start a dedicated laundry community, I'll subscribe. Sounds like you already have the perfect sidebar material written out already lol. Cheers!
in reply to BuckFutter
Honestly I dontbhave the time in my average day to moderate the community so who would moderate it? I dont have the time T-T . Others probably do. They can start it if they want and moderate it if they want .

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in reply to ipkpjersi

True. And it sucks.

The way I see it is that as long as Lemmy doesnt become as amazingly terrible as reddit or faceboook or twitter there will be such communities created eventually....may take a decade or two for people to birth them and moderate them but they are almost inevitable to come into existence if the demand for such communities gets big enough.

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in reply to lagg_mine

🫩 There isnt even an intactivism community here bruh!!! 🫩

🫪Heck there isnt even LAUNDRY community on Lemmy!?! How yall existed for this long with no laundry community yall?!?🫪

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in reply to lagg_mine

That's the problem with changing social networks.

People goes where people are. So it takes some major scew up from the current networks. Or a newcomer that have some killer feature everybody will want / need.

And lemmy lacks that "killer feature"

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in reply to EowynCarter
Lemmy/Piefed/Etc has a killer feature (or maybe characteristic), but one that only a fraction of users find appealing. Being decentralized makes the network more resistant to many of the problems we see on Reddit and other networks, or at least, reduces their impact.

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in reply to lagg_mine
I think what there users who mostly post and users that mostly comment (I belong to the later). Lemmy could try to bootstrap some of those communities (note: to not make it to specific) by just reposting the same posts that are posted in Reddit and see if that could increase activity.
in reply to BeelzebubEiNukuKoskaan

Yes I would be pleased to expand thank you for asking.

Lemmy is a mini reddit, moderators own the space, like a feudal lord. To take off, as an alternative to the feudal spaces of big social media, we need to offer a better alternative.

To that effect, a clear set of moderation rules would help, and for that set of rules to end in a jury trial of members.

in reply to bedwyr

What I don't get with this federated software, Lemmy and Mastodon. It's ripe for essentially, server level verification of identity. And I don't mean check every ID of every user.

But like, this threat talks about game communities. Some larger company, Microsoft, maybe even Valve with Steam, could easily run an instance, and have "official" forums this way. Any anyone on any instance can subscribe and visit. But that way you know that like, I dunno, lame.microsoft/halo is the proper community for Halo. Sure, there may be others, but it can become the place of record with announcements etc.

Same for Mastodon stuff. But that would be more for individuals. But also stuff. Like you could have movie.studio/tom.cruise and it's verification that it's the proper Tom Cruise posting. That sort of thing.

Plus, smaller communities have less potential burden from a few large accounts loading the system down.

Etc.

in reply to psx_crab
Yeah, and it's worse the more niche. I have no idea if Lemmy has a Fortnite community or if it's active, but I seriously doubt it has a /r/StarWarsDroidTycoon community (a Fortnite mode), which is what I care about. Or /r/FortniteLeaks
in reply to DaddleDew
I think the issue is also related to how Reddit makes money. Reddit makes money from selling advertisement. I would guess they are charging a certain fee based off subreddit activity the ads are shown in. When most of that Reddit activity is bots and fake clicks on advertisement then the company won't see the return on their investment because they thought a million people would see their ad but only 100k real people actually saw it.
in reply to bedwyr

the problem with uBlock there is thst sometimes on reddit they post like 'Advertisement Posts' ...Like actual posts that are not about that niche community in anyway but are nothing more than an advertisement for a comoany and uBlack obviously cant block that.

Ive seen it a few times in the past but its been like 4 years since Ive been on reddit so I dont know if theyve stopped doing that.

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in reply to Zagorath
It could also be to make things difficult for redlib, which uses the reddit API.
in reply to DaddleDew

Reddit at one point filtered millions of bots monthly and transparently filed public reports on the actions they had taken, even citing the source of these bot networks if a notable number of them came from places like Russia, China, Myanmar, etc.

That was a long ass time ago, though. Before they killed off the free API access in 2022, and the 3rd party apps and accessibility layers with it.

in reply to return2ozma
Today in "no fucking shit news" reddit continues to suck and water makes things wet. Next week on "everyone already knows this" join us when we reveal our breaking stories "republicans are traitors to the constitution, and spez sucks donkey dicks"
in reply to return2ozma

Those RSS feeds have been so heavily rate-limited over the past year that they were practically unusable already. I'm glad they're finally making an announcement about it. No more ambiguity. No more aggressively sporadic 403 and 429 errors.

Go ahead and kill the only reason I ever used your site.

Esta entrada fue editada (jueves, 1 de octubre de 2026, 2:14)
in reply to return2ozma

A mild realization just hit me. Reddit used to come up in daily conversation, even with randos. Now when I mention it nobody even knows what it is, and those that do remember it... speak of it only as this vague place they used to go years ago. "Oh yeah I remember reddit"

E: fyi I'm talking roughly circa 2008-2013 when every last bricklayer, sewer technician, and 7-Eleven worker "found" the platform

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in reply to DrSoap

Really? Wow. I have no way of really knowing for sure but I am pretty convinced that they reached maximum saturation of their user base 10 years ago... That's why there was this sudden whiplash pivot to forcing Indian, Pakistani, and the European content to the front page.

I saw that as the indicator that the North American market had been penetrated as far as they were going to penetrate, and they were looking abroad.

Now with what you're telling me it's making me question reality, I don't think there's a person on the planet that isn't aware of reddit, I think people just don't want to use it anymore!

Question, where have you noticed these advertisements?

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in reply to Krudler

The only time it comes up in conversations is because my buddy discovered reddit only like 3 years ago, when I had just moved to lemmy. He still sends me reddit links several times a week.

Then there is the tech support side, because name it and it’s been posted on reddit, usually with the solution, but now everybody just AI’s the shit out of that so that has become less relevant.

And that’s it. Everyone else that I knew that used reddit has moved on years ago.

in reply to cmnybo

I'd like to believe it is but I also know that the majority of people online do not give a damn about user experience and things getting shittier. I do not understand these people, but its because of them this shit is still happening. If they all left sites like reddit there'd be no incentive to become shittier and shittier.

Not trying to shift blame though, in the first place its companies like reddit even coming up with strategy who are to blame.

in reply to cmnybo
See my Reddit alternative: Zyke
Design was inspired by piefed. Had 3k hits last month
in reply to return2ozma

The reddit community that I'm still sort of active in relies on RSS in order to run and judge contests. We have a portal which sucks comments in via RSS because they revoked the API key which was used for the same purpose.

Without RSS, we'll either have to come up with some other way to pull in reddit comments, or force everyone to use PieFed.

My vote is for the latter, of course!

in reply to Leigh Weigh
reddits plan is to have AI mods to fully automate subreddits eventually. enough witht he pesky human ones that soured them in the past.
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in reply to Tollana1234567
Yeah I can definitely tell. I've gotten so many messages from people about why things have been removed. I have no idea all I can see is "removed by reddit." I don't even know what your posted.

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in reply to return2ozma
no because they banned so many people, whats left was propaganda bots, and spammers looking to earn money from rs by directing traffic to thier businesses. this effectively stopped or poisoned thier AI data scraping.

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in reply to Tollana1234567
Um, excuse me, this post is promoting violence against bots. That'll be a lifetime ban for you and your old ass account.
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in reply to nullspace
I'm in this post and I don't like it. Reddit is imploding under its own bulk and tech bro fellating. Ya hate to see it. It was so pleasant once upon a time. But alas, "Die a hero or live long enough," and all that.

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in reply to TheStaffmaster
It's like an old pub where you made happy youthful memories, but it closed years ago and the building is now too fundamentally rotten to ever go back to its former glory. Best thing for everyone involved is for it to burn to the ground and be replaced by something new.

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in reply to return2ozma
How sad that Aaron Swartz was there for the creation of RSS and Reddit. Like spitting on his grave by removing access to data and putting up walls.

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in reply to return2ozma
From enshittified to literal shit. Now they even self-isolate that shit. Good. It will stink a bit less on the net. 🤭
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in reply to return2ozma

I posted on a food sub, saying "that looks incredible* something innocuous like that.

Bot removes my post, contact mode team because I cannot quite believe what I read. Auto mod, (cannot believe it was a human), tells me the same thing. Reddit has profiled me as being disruptive & I can post once I have "improved my standing"

Things like this are a red rag to me, always have been. Anyway, the food sub is muted, & reddit can get fucked, I'll post my opinions whether any bot likes it or not till I'm inevitably banned for failure to "conform" to their disgusting agenda.

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in reply to LovelyMover
It's ridiculous. The bots ban and then they guard the mods (humans), who could review the case(-s). Support is pretty much non-existent.
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in reply to LovelyMover

I was in a discussion on the post election political situation in Sweden right now and from nowhere my five year old account got flagged as "suspicious" and locked until verified. For whatever reason it refused to hit me with CAPTCHA and the likes. I had no email registered previously and could not verify. I tried a couple of temp email but got no verification sent there. So I registered a throw away at a legitimate email provider and changed it there. Nothing there either.

But I also have mods and at least one admin that doesn't like me from long ago because I make fun of Nazis. So maybe I am "suspicious".

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in reply to whaleross
I had a very similar experience. I had a reddit account from before they required email addresses. It got flagged as "suspicious", it forced me to reset the password in order to continue, and the password reset required me to provide an email address, which I refused to do. I asked an AI agent what might have caused the flag. At the moment my account got flagged, I was arguing on reddit with some pro-China people, and I was posting links to the genocide of the Uyghurs. The agent told me that hackers probably made multiple failed attempts to log in to my account and this triggered the flag. Sounds like something similar could have been done to you by people who opposed your political views.

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in reply to Tollana1234567
I wondered the same. As far as I can tell, in my case, hackers (presumably pro-China activists) simply made multiple failed attempts to log in to my account. They probably had no chance of getting access, but they knew that it would cause the account to be flagged. They probably did not know 1) that reddit did not have my email address, and 2) that reddit required that for a password reset, and 3) that I was not willing to provide it - so effectively they locked me out of my account.

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in reply to whaleross
There is something new they're doing. They say you're a bot, or are spamming, this seems a catch all to shadow ban people anyone that says anything the admin considers contrary to the reddit agenda. You could try contacting the site mods...I got a "bot" ban lifted that way once.
in reply to LovelyMover
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Reddit has become unusable. It has moderaters that are censorious, sactimonious, petty and do not care about. free speech. Adverts are becoming unbearable and the riculous time limits drive me mad! The inane Avartars are imbecilic too.
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in reply to LovelyMover

Eventually, all these tech companies scale up to a size where they don't have to give a shit about people anymore. They only care if you're a celebrity or somehow manage to create a big PR show that they have to respond to. But at this point, regular people are just like blades of grass that will eventually get mowed down somehow and there's nothing you can do about it.

Now it's dead and time to move on.

in reply to capital5
Horribly accurate. I remember the good old days when imgur was to all intents & purposes a porn site, now it's some sort of self help horror show where the appearance of a nipple is tantamount to a crime against humanity.
in reply to capital5

on reddit, BILL gates was on the sites for a few years, and then he vanished around epstein getting arrested, hmm guessing epstein news was potentially going to out him too, thats why he stopped. even his "covid vaccine" philantropy was a vaneer of what he wanted.

now another celebrity, GARY sinise suddenly was on reddit alot, starting right before trumps 2nd election, suspicious i think not. providing military propaganda for conservatives on the site, he also seems like he acts as he was a vet himself. then on youtube saw his "im leaving hollywood" interview, he said it was his SON that was the cause, but im thinking the winds were changing and his republican whom he announced publically on election year was going to cause him to lose roles in hollywood. hes has a wierd obsession with vets.

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in reply to raspirate

The world wide web a legacy platform at this point. It's treated as such by both the tech industry and average people. Most people use social media through apps. All the government organizations and banks are consolidating their services to apps. Nobody makes their own websites anymore.

The reality hasn't sunk in yet for the rest of us, but it's happening. We assumed it would be a forever thing once it was created. It turns out the world wide web is going to be brief historical period at the turn of the century that you tell your grandkids about.

Maybe some day the PC will go back to being a novelty appliance found in few living rooms. Where you have to power it up, sign on, and browse the few handful of websites in existence. When you're done, you turn it off and go about your day again.

in reply to raspirate
You could share that link as normal and people could click it and be directed to the thing you want to share, but they can’t view the content without logging in, and even if they don’t log in, the mere fact that they clicked it still links the two of you together in the user map. Nothing ever escapes the sandbox and nobody is able to share content from the site unless they accessed it from approved means, and they can only share it to others who are also using approved means.


Me: [presses PrntScrn, shares the result of that]

in reply to return2ozma

No, they aren't. The headline is just a giant lie. Why would anyone pretend to believe it?

Reddit was destroyed by bots years ago. So that's nonsense. But they have two strong reasons to pull public access. First, if the public has access to the data, then companies won't buy it for AI training. Second, if the public has access to the data, they can prove (as we already knew) that Reddit is full of bots, so there is no reason you would want to buy training data from it.

in reply to fodor
reddit also wants GENUINE human generated content, not AI-generated posts or comments that poisons thier data, thats why the forced logins. im in another forum where the spammers, have to "make genuine' content to evade thier spam/bot filters.
in reply to return2ozma

I know we all collectively hate Reddit here - no sarcasm on my end -, but I hate to think what it's gonna be like 10 years from now.

The sheer amount of good information I've obtained from Reddit over these last 15 years: mental, physical health, nutrition, tech, jobs... all for free, as it should be! It's insane when you think about it.

Imagining a world where I'll have to get charged to search every little thing, and yet get biased information due to ads and marketing... All of this sucks so much.

How are you guys gonna cope with this? What do you intend to do in the future I mean.

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in reply to berrodeguarana
Yeah, I also find a lot of my most useful and specific web searches take me to reddit. Unfortunately, I don't see a solution. Hopefully a similar depth of information will start to accrue here, but if it happens it'll happen slowly. And it's hard to search.

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in reply to berrodeguarana
Never forget what made sites like Reddit popular in the first place. That can always be rebuilt. Reddit can die without it meaning we have to give up what Reddit was.

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in reply to partofthevoice

The information will still be there as long as they don't remove entire posts by users who have deleted their user names and keep an archive going.

Someone should be making a reddit archive site. Like an exact read-only clone to retain all the information people have access to before they remove it all to accommodate Ai on their servers.

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in reply to Hueristic_Autistic
The majority of its value is in currency, meaning current. The historical value is present too, but it’s but a drop in the ocean relatively. If everyone left Reddit, Reddit would very soon cease to exist. Wherever everyone went, they took the value with them.
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in reply to berrodeguarana
I guess I will continue to hang out around here. There aren't many places on the internet left for such a broad range of topics and conversations with real humans. The sad reality is that the specialist forums are dying and being replaced by closed platforms and the large aggregators are getting shittier every day. The Fediverse seems like the only worthwhile investment of my time.

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in reply to rumba
What I miss most from reddit is probably askhistorians. . . Such an incredibly wide and authoritative accumulation of knowledge and skilled interpretation. Ah well.
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in reply to Regrettable_incident

no time like the present to create it on lemmy and recruit in DM's :)

best yet, you could DM the historians with the best mannerisms.

Once you get a number of reasonable posts on this side, you could ask people on their site for assistance on questions from here :) lowkey advertising until they shut you down over there.

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in reply to rumba

So. Early, early on I did reach out to a couple of them.

Unfortunately, there are some frankly terrible communities on Lemmy who engage in some pretty awful hatred and historical denialism, and they weren't interested in moving to a community that wouldn't dissociate with that, much less one that is actively run by the same people.

And like, we can repeat to the end of time that Lemmy is a distributed community and each instance's choices don't reflect on others. But the reality is that people do look at the largest instances not shutting that crap out, and it does color their perceptions.

in reply to berrodeguarana

Ending the public API also prevents reddit users from deleting their post history without manually removing each post.

If you want to scrub your post history and prevent reddit from profiting from your input, use Power Delete Suite while you still can.

github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite

It is unlikely that reddit allows users to delete their content from the backend but this at least keeps your posts out of search results, which is a large part of their value.

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in reply to berrodeguarana
Reddit bridged so many understanding gaps for me while i was in my early 20s things you could never talk about in real life. It was honest people talking in good faith. Now i look at the same places and they're full of the worst info and worst takes.
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in reply to berrodeguarana

This. It was a golden age of information and community availability, and it's going to be hard to put that back together. Especially since the prior eras of distributed sites, we had functioning search engines.

And yeah, sure, it can be rebuilt... but there's going to be a long time of awful isolation until it is.

in reply to berrodeguarana
How are you guys gonna cope with this? What do you intend to do in the future I mean.


Books and that kind of stuff, for some of that. Most of the useful information on health, nutrition, sports and the like came from people because it came from books (that people read).

For the rest, hope that more people to community bootstrap.

in reply to berrodeguarana

same thing here. certain job industry, which is worth getting into, how hard it is to apply,,,etc. and all the other subs. the least useful ones were politics and news. they had subs for people wanting to join the services, but could not find a place where they can discuss because it was originally concentrated in certain forums only.

got an appliance problem of a specific model, or electronic issue, the subs have it.

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in reply to w3dd1e
The only thing I miss about reddit is access to the comments. There was often valuable troubleshooting advice in the comments for a myriad of issues. It's a real shame that they've taken this stance. Just another mistake in a long line of mistakes that is going to result in the death of the platform.

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in reply to gwl [he/him]

They killed access to old Reddit without an account a couple months ago. Also i saw some people can't access the new one without an account but i guess they are rolling out that one slowly.

They're making the website viewable only with an account.

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in reply to gwl [he/him]

there are some very narrow uses where AI is actually useful. Most of what it's used for is junk though. The early internet was the same way, but at least that was charming about it. I doubt that a website comprised of 1200 clipart hamster gifs and a pitch toned clip of a song from Disney's Robin Hood is going to hack a competing Sites mainframe looking for ways to inflate its page veiws.

The AI bubble will burst, companies will actually sit down, pull their heads out of their asses, and actually apply it to something useful, as it was originally conceived.

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in reply to zack822
I tried but the last time I made a website was in the 2000s and I gave up when I couldn't figure out what "Docker" was, or why I needed it. What happened to simply slapping everything together in Notepad, uploading the files via FTP, linking it up with your MySQL database, and it all just works?
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in reply to BillionaireStew

Thanks, I tried that guide but it might as well be gibberish as far as I'm concerned.

Why do I have to tap into the command line on my web server? What happened to GUI installers?

"PostgreSQL"? What happened to MySQL?

What the hell is "Rust"?

So much has changed in 20 years and I feel like an old man trying to navigate a modern smart TV.

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in reply to Psythik
You can still do that i think lol -- docker is basically an engine, the docker folks make sure docker is compatible with all different sorts of hardware, and you just make sure your software is compatible with docker.
in reply to return2ozma

Lol Reddit

I actually forgot about Reddit in the same way I forgot about Friendster... Which I want to point out is also still around and being used by real people, somehow.

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in reply to SCmSTR
I wish Lemmy was more popular. I still use Reddit for niche things; for example, I'm getting a new Pebble watch and I want to see posts about that. Here, the whole community has a small handful of posts. On Reddit there are new posts every day. Sigh!
in reply to gilokee
I'm finding that Lemmy and the Fediverse in general isn't good enough for normie stuff, like TV and movies. Frankly, i think videogames too now that i think about it. I've seen news about videogames, but never people talking about a videogame. Even anime and manga is very limited.
in reply to return2ozma
Translation: RSS feeds allowed users to access reddit posts without logging in which is a huge no no for data collection. It also enabled 3rd party open source reddit clients to function which is again a huge no no. For these reasons, we (reddit) are ending rss feeds

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in reply to return2ozma
Reddit is killing RSS feeds and ending public API access because of AI bots

Sensitive content

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in reply to return2ozma
Reddit is insufferable. It’s impossible to get an interesting convo going and the vast majority of posts are slop.
Even the subreddits for hobbyists are affected.
I’ll save a sad memory for the glory days but it’s time to move on.

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in reply to return2ozma

I don't doubt that it's because of the bots but it also conveniently forces people into their enshittified "modern" interfaces.

The API was effectively killed off years ago, so no loss there.

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in reply to return2ozma
Reddit said in the next few months it will limit access for logged-in users to those who have used Old Reddit in the last 6 months. (The company changed this from 90 days to 6 months, just as their news went out.)


wouldn't want anyone using old reddit?

in reply to return2ozma

True, but i can be banned for one flippant comment taken out of all reasonable context, but another comment that is perfectly fine is judged based on a trend across multiple subs?

It's just ridiculous & indicative of a race to the bottom of the sump.

Reddit feels like where "the old free internet" I used to know, has gone to be slowly euthanasised, by drowning it in ai slop, bots, & people offended that the sky is blue.

in reply to Jaysyn
They just need to die & let either open-sourced, decentralized & federated social media platforms like Lemmy, Discuit, Loops, Pixelfed, PieFed, PeerTube & Mastodon thrive, or bring back old school, traditional forums that were popular befote the big, social media boom that had happened since 2010.
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in reply to return2ozma
When I look back at reddit I liken it to being on the Titanic and several hours before hitting the ice berg a group of people in a rowboat come alongside the ship and I ask to go with them because that guy is driving the ship too fast. I suck at allegories.
in reply to BradleyUffner
Nope: developers.reddit.com/docs/capabilities/server/reddit-api
in reply to return2ozma
Tbh I hope they inevitably go down. I had been on Reddit for years before they permabanned my account without warning. I literally would just post pictures of soaps I make and interact with other subs that caught my interest. I tried appealing but it was denied and I keep being ignored. Reddit is killing their user base with their AI bot BS and I miss when they weren’t so corporate
in reply to return2ozma

When I search for things at work, and reddit may have the top result, I stopped clicking them becasue they want me to log in.

When I search for things on my phone, and reddit is one of the top results, I stopped clicking it because now it won't let me read it in browser, and forces me to use their app.

They got rid of old reddit.

Clearly they are trying to pad their logged-in user counts.

I'm done. I'm sorry to say that I'd rather have an AI-generated answer (that likely is citing the right answer on reddit anyway) than to give reddit the satisfaction of making me open their app or log in.

Fuck them.

Fuck spez.

RIP AaronSw.

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