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So write them. Write why you won't visit their establishment any more.

@snaggen @jo
"Code generated by genAI is slop" is a tautology, that is the definition.

Regular developers just want to write code and use tools but there is a legit war over the future of the value of human life and labor and they are in the middle, whether they want to be or not.

The nuance of asking "yes, but what if it only does 'X'. Is that still slop?" is getting into the opposing ideologies. One reason to ask this is so someone can produce code while using genAI while still technically complying with whatever the "No AI" policy is. GenAI zealots will use this as a wedge to creep over the line, get buy-in that it's actually okay just this once, and then keep doing that until the "No AI" policy is meaningless.

The Epstein class, fossil fuel billionaires, and the effective altruist broligarchs have joined forces to deskill us, manipulate us, devalue our creativity, surveil us, and even murder us when it serves their ends. Generative AI is the largest, most effective tool they've ever had. Choosing to use genAI benefits them more than it benefits you.

@snaggen @jo Even if it is irrational, it’s not nearly as irrational as being convinced (and trying to convince everyone else) that the slop generator is somehow alive, has feelings and morals, and is likely to destroy humanity.

And yet, those people got to spend ONE TRILLION DOLLARS on their slop machines.

I’ll stop being irrational when they do. Or at least when they’ll stop bleeding us all.

@snaggen @jo I would say more that there should be a separation, whether something works at technical level and whether it's a morally acceptable thing to do...in a perfect world...

That said, irrational expression could still be effective.

Somehow though I don't feel the shame even while accepting many of the moral tenets, so I'd guess not effective for people that don't.

I think based on the Debian vote, most people have accepted this is the new reality that may get toned down a bit after the economic bubble bursts. Obviously there are many communities that are anti-llm too, like codeberg, so I may be wrong here, though OS communities do immediately see the harm of slop submissions from people, who do not even try out, what they submit etc. so they'd expected to be more anti-llm than norm YMMV.

@dalias
Yup. I have a similar private note for that account.

I should probably follow through on my desire to call these accounts out on the Fediblock hashtag. Second strike == raise the alarm. Seems fair. I'm pretty good about checking the nature of their other posts before commiting to the initial block.
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