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OH RIGHT while yall are investgating alternate browsers, STAY AWAY FROM BRAVE • run by homopobe and financial backer of other homophobes Brendan Eich • crypto is all over the fucking thing.rachael laura yay ~~ (cyberpunk dot lol)
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in reply to spacegoat • • •If the problem is space: there are nay way to fix this, if not, then you are better off using another browser, many Zen features are made around the vertical tabs
RVGamer06
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in reply to not_IO • • •Also Pale Moon is still borked from the Tobin saga.
Firefox will sign you up for 'Studies' that phone home and disclose your browsing data without consent, you need to check this periodically. Turning it off is not enough, you need to check it as it will periodically turn itself back on with updates.
Waterfox is clean after you turn off crash telemetry.
idiomaddict
in reply to ms.lane • • •On desktop? That’s fucked, idk how that’s not more publicized
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in reply to lepinkainen • • •Well, so is everything except Firefox and Firefox forks.
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TheFrirish
in reply to not_IO • • •The unfortunate truth is that on iOS it's the only acceptable browser option since it is by far the best at adblocking.
But you have to deactivate all the crypto stuff
~~Anyone with alternatives welcome (except Safari)~~
Edit: Went on a quick search to find another browser. It is just not possible on iOS. I don't want to download 2 apps and configure a dns just to not see ads ffs.
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kibblebits
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in reply to kibblebits • • •Unfortunately no adblocking
Edit: this comes two days later and after using DDG's browser app on iOS the adblocking is nowhere near as effective as brave's adblocking and when playing videos the phone heats up a lot and it drains the battery way more. So unfortunately I may switch back to Brave.
You can say what you want and you can downvote me into oblivion. Brave's adblock (on iOS) is leagues ahead of the competition. All while not tanking your battery.
kibblebits
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in reply to kibblebits • • •Well, after a search, it turns out that as of June 2 2026 you can block ads on YT with ddg. It still serves you some Microslop ads though the search. Also it seems pretty strong at ad blocking.
I will start using that from now on and and see how it goes.
Edit: You'll have to forgive my bluntness it was a recent change I was not aware of it. Also the Videos can be played in PiP Mode which is really cool.
I am finally free from Brave Thank You
TheEmpireStrikesDak
in reply to TheFrirish • • •In the early days, ddg's browser used to block YouTube ads direct. But now it only blocks ads through the duckplayer.
An interesting thing about ddg is it does stop websites seeing how much battery you have. I don't know why this is useful, I just thought it was a fun fact.
TheFrirish
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in reply to TheFrirish • • •This is what I get:
you're reading this on a device that doesn't have a battery in it, or the battery is at 100% while plugged in.
I found the site:
yhvr.me/about/
Also eff has a similar one:
coveryourtracks.eff.org/
Cover Your Tracks
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in reply to TheFrirish • • •there's your problem!
My android phone needs repairs and I'm using my old iPhone in the interim, which is several months bc I don't have a lot of disposable phone repair money rn, and my GOD the amount of ads and downright unhappiness I'm dealing with right now that I'd forgotten about thanks to android. No thanks to Google, obv, but Fdroid and the lovely FLOSS software that just isn't available on iOS. Even my Syncthing is half broken because Mobius sync caps you to only sharing a couple MiB without paying!
GreenShimada
in reply to not_IO • • •Shocking number of people under-informed about browsers here.
Brave just released a $60 paid (except on Linux Desktop) version without bloat. It worked barely OK in the first place, but didn't obfuscate all of your browser fingerprint. It spoofed fonts, that was its major innovation.
Only Tor truly anonymizes web traffic. This is not opinion, this is fact.
LibreWolf, Mullvad, and hardened FF help, but they all give their own fingerprints. As does Vivaldi and Floorp.
Personally, I cycle through all 7 of these. Only things tied to my name on stock FF. Everything else gets its own different browser private mode and VPN location.
Use whatever you want, but understand that unless you're on Tor or spreading your risk across multiple tools, it's trivial for Google to triangulate you across the web.
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GreenShimada
in reply to greedytacothief • • •adr1an
in reply to GreenShimada • • •Thanks. Very good comment, I agree.. And yet...
Ironically, not being on what most people are using (stock Chrome without extensions) is already a fingerprint. And tor browser, even if it is providing anonymity, is also a huge fingerprint on itself, by blocking all the fingerprinting stuff...
The irony is lost the moment you come up with a proper threat model upon which you base the decisions of what security and privacy measures are going to be taken for a given online activity.
I really liked (and used it for quite a while) that extension, Ad Nauseam, that would actually follow behind scenes all ads and shit...
GreenShimada
in reply to adr1an • • •This is a bit like the "If you're not doing anything, you have nothing to hide" argument. You're thinking this is an all or nothing position, and it's very much not. It depends on one's threat model, but there's two sides to the coin worth considering.
First, that your entire life is open to anyone with money. Individuals so motivated can spend a couple grand and buy your advertising data and stalk you. Everything you think, every little whim, every random question, is used to build a profile on you that benefits someone else financially. All you get is free email and a mediocre browser from a billion-dollar company that derives an average of $1,600 from you a year if you're in the US ? You can pay for those services for a tenth of that. So you're 90% profit to Google.
On the flip side, by giving up so much high-value data, that profile becomes active in real time. Even if you use ad blockers and don't see the ads (which as a Chrome user, you no lon
... Mostrar másThis is a bit like the "If you're not doing anything, you have nothing to hide" argument. You're thinking this is an all or nothing position, and it's very much not. It depends on one's threat model, but there's two sides to the coin worth considering.
First, that your entire life is open to anyone with money. Individuals so motivated can spend a couple grand and buy your advertising data and stalk you. Everything you think, every little whim, every random question, is used to build a profile on you that benefits someone else financially. All you get is free email and a mediocre browser from a billion-dollar company that derives an average of $1,600 from you a year if you're in the US ? You can pay for those services for a tenth of that. So you're 90% profit to Google.
On the flip side, by giving up so much high-value data, that profile becomes active in real time. Even if you use ad blockers and don't see the ads (which as a Chrome user, you no longer can do). You are an active target by companies. Not just you, everyone around you. Friends, family, coworkers. For some big ticket items, advertisers will target anyone connected to your profile. So your parents, your kids, your neighbors, might start to get ads about a cruise. Not for them, but for you, since it looks like you might be a good mark for a cruise. These companies manipulate people around you to be the ads, so that when you bring up "we're thinking about doing a cruise" at some point, everyone around you jumps in with the same "oh, well I've heard that XYZ Cruise company is good."
You trust a company that much to manipulate you and everyone around you without bias? With your best interests in mind? You want to cede your agency as a human to real-time auctions?
Personally, this is fundamentally abhorrent to me. And I understand that other people are fine with this. However, I'd rather leave a small and bland trail of a few occasional and useless crumbs, and then leave "redacted" as a middle finger because that deprives Google and Meta of using me as a revenue source. The nice part is that even partially masking your footprint and traffic, it's enough to break the real-time value of you as an individual. So not only does every little bit help, every little bit has effects to protect you and your family.
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in reply to not_IO • • •What is the term for when the internet collectively latches on to hyperbole and half truths for something it decides to to hate; but the hatred is entirely due to the continued spread of those same bits of hyperbole and half truths; and also viciously attacks anyone who tries to point it out?
I swear, Lemmy's hatred of Brave is like... mass psychosis? No, that doesn't seem right. It's like everyone's argument against it stems entirely from surface level skimming of hit piece headlines. And then the vitriol is dialed up to 11, all based on shit that you learn is overblown to the point of comedy once you spend even a single minute reading about it.
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in reply to not_IO • • •N.E.P.T.R
in reply to Log in | Sign up • • •If you are on Android, just know it has much weaker security because it is a webview browser with no per-site process isolation. WebView browsers are just reskinned weaker Chromium. Also, of your devices is no longer receiving updates, your webview (built in to the OS) may be very out of date, and Browsers are the most exploited platform.
If you are on iOS, it is just reskinned Safari (WebKit). If you are on desktop, it should be fine (just still chromium).
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in reply to Razen • • •Librewolf by default deletes all cookies when you close it. So that will log you out of every website, but that also makes sure things like tracking cookies don't hang around.
You can tweak those settings if you want.
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in reply to Razen • • •Maybe try to look at your settings :)
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in reply to melsaskca • • •In this case, no. This isn't about brand identity, this is about technical implementation. To make your analogy work, it's more like "Don't buy that Ford because the 5.4L Triton in it is notorious for sparkplug ejection."
In this case, Brave is notorious for everything in that post, and more. The CEO got fired from the board of Mozilla after something like 10 days for being a piece of shit about gay people wanting to be married.
Manu
in reply to not_IO • • •The combination of Brendan Eich and Peter Thiel has now pushed me past the point where I can separate software from its creator’s ideology.
lepinkainen
in reply to Manu • • •Dr. Moose
in reply to lepinkainen • • •This is the guy that Epstein sent an email to saying:
3 days before Brexit vote.
And Thiel did nothing but sabotage society for finding the next bargain. He's a caricature super villain from James Bond.
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boonhet
in reply to lepinkainen • • •Technically the order was:
Buy
180 on views
Make him VP
He didn't really buy a ready-made VP, he groomed him.
MIDItheKID
in reply to Manu • • •Brave Browser: "Privacy Forward"
Funded by Peter Thiel of Palantir, the most un-privacy corporation that ever pravacied.
That math ain't mathing for me.
As others mentioned, Thiel is basically a cartoon supervillain. There's definitely something more sinister at play that he's trying to accomplish with this "privacy forward" web browser. Not sure exactly what it is, but I don't trust it for a fucking second.
Ethanol
in reply to not_IO • • •It's good that OG directly linked to the toot but I always hate when dates are cutoff. This toot is from 2024 when Google started introducing manifest v3 which prevented ublock origin from working, hence many people were looking for alternative browsers and Brave was one of the more popular ones. While I would not recommend Brave, I've heard the crypto rewarding program is opt-in and the affiliate link injection was removed soon after getting backlash.
Brendan Eich is still an ass though, and Brave has very bad business practices. Only recently Brave announced a 60$ (free on Linux though) minimalist variant that removes unwanted features like the crypto rewarding program, Brave VPN and AI chatbot which are built-in for the default browser variant.
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in reply to olenkoVD • • •i tell you what, i'll keep an eye on the brave usage numbers and if they keep heading up because it's such a great browser i'll keep it under my hat
deal?
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in reply to not_IO • • •I liked the idea of the crypto thing they implemented originally, so I opened a wallet.. Actually ended up costing me money. Never made ANY crypto from it
Happy to stick to Firefox. Been using it since the original betas when they added proper theming and addons.
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