EA is shutting down BioWare and the next Mass Effect has been canceled


in reply to ryven
I played it a good while after launch. I couldn't find any of the goofy bugs either by then and I did actually like the beginning of the game. But I felt the story was the strongest at the beginning and then it became a bit formulaic. Overall though I didn't think it was a bad as some made it out to be but also not stellar of course.
Esta entrada fue editada (miércoles, 21 de octubre de 2026, 20:49)
in reply to YoFrodo

What void? The void of casual role playing games with bad gameplay and worse writing?

I don’t think that void needs to be filled. The last BioWare game I enjoyed was Mass Effect 2 in 2010.

in reply to rafoix

ME2 is amazing and ME1 was great. 3 had good mechanics but worse writing, and Andromeda was terrible on many fronts but the ability to change your build on the fly was cool.

When I talk about Exodus and Expanse Im talking more about the style of third-person sci-fi RPGs with companions.

in reply to YoFrodo

Who actually is a gamer himself too

Apparently day 1 of Firefly filming he told Alan Tudyk to go buy an Xbox so they could play Halo. Day 2 he asked Alan "so what'd you think" and Alan was confused, having thought it to be a joke. That day he had to go and buy said Xbox.

I'm listening to their podcast (Once We Were Spacemen) right now, though the episode where they talked about how they became friends was ages ago, so I might be misremembering some details. They also have an episode with the guy who directed the Uncharted fan film Nathan starred in, Allan Ungar.

in reply to boonhet
Apparently day 1 of Firefly filming he told Alan Tudyk to go buy an Xbox so they could play Halo. Day 2 he asked Alan "so what'd you think" and Alan was confused, having thought it to be a joke. That day he had to go and buy said Xbox.


And then both of them ended up in Halo as Buck and Mickey in ODST.

in reply to Scrubbles
They should make that failure of a game, Anthem, open source. No money to be made there. Make it so everyone knows just how bad. As an example of a terrible game and assuming terrible source code. Only 1 way to find out. I'm not still hopeful that it has huge potential. Nope nope nope.
in reply to ummthatguy

yoyo they found 21 missing people off of that music video. its really a song of hope.

theguardian.com/culture/2022/oct/31/missing-kids-soul-asylum-runaway-train-tony-kaye-david-pirner#%3…

Esta entrada fue editada (miércoles, 21 de octubre de 2026, 20:33)
in reply to Couldbealeotard

from the article:

It wasn’t always plain sailing for the families afterwards – kids don’t run away from happy homes – but maybe things had changed when they went back or they were older and able to cope better.


i don't know the specifics, but that sounds like what they're trying to say very gently. i wouldn't go so far as to say it ruined their lives, but in our experiences (two of my cousins and one niece ran away when they were teenagers) if their lives were ruined it was the shit that caused them to run away that did it.

i know, small sample size, but most people expect their lives to be ordinary. it makes it easy to fall into the logical trap that everyone has the same experiences

in reply to Soulphite

The bigotry is probably a new thing for them then because at least back in the day they didn't give a fuck as long as it made money. Bioware games usually had LGB(perhaps not T, don't remember any) characters, often as romance options and I recall racial justice being a theme in both Mass Effect and Dragon Age games.

But I suspect the new owners don't really want their games to infect anyone with the gays(tm)

Esta entrada fue editada (miércoles, 21 de octubre de 2026, 22:17)
in reply to samus12345

Ah, I didn't know about that one because I could never get into Inquisition myself. Though it seems to have been well received enough as a game that perhaps I should try it.

Part of me wonders if Krem received less hate than some other Ts in media because the Internet hate machine mostly seems to have it out for MTF rather than FTM folks or because he genuinely had good writing rather than being shoehorned in

Esta entrada fue editada (jueves, 22 de octubre de 2026, 0:28)
in reply to the_crotch

Keep at it. Powerless. Yelling into the void.

Making a difference yet, Internet crusader? Maybe instead of spending your time on video games and yelling at people on the Internet, lying to yourself that you're "hehe trolling some bigot" you do something real. Get a real degree. Get a real career. Become useful and maybe you'll finally get a date. Your life will change around and maybe you won't be so angry with the world anymore.

Or nah, keep at it here instead. Reddit, discord. Continue being an intolerable idiot instead. That's more fun and you'll never have to face the reality that the problem was all you all along. That's what you'll do, you'll show me.

in reply to the_crotch
You're the one who's miserable. Constantly lashing out at strangers on the Internet. Hatred of people who you perceive as doing better than you. That bitterness is never going to go away and it will consume you unless you do something about it.
in reply to mHtt
Good news is that EA self-destructed in the Saudi deal so a few guys at the top could fill their pockets one more time. The debt they loaded EA with will be paid by selling everything. There is no other way. EA can no longer operate and their IPs will go to different studios. Let‘s hope one or two of them treat the franchises a tiny bit more carefully. Maybe. Or it will all be AI slop. Time will tell. But the way I see it EA is toast.
in reply to Valmond
in reply to rafoix
Thanks! I have played the beginning, the start is really cool IIRC on a ship, but then it just bogs down in an incomprehensible mess in a village in the jungle (or I'm too stupid)... Maybe I'll try it again, at least I already have it!
in reply to JigglySackles
in reply to boonhet

Anthem was discontinued after like a month. They kept the servers open but gave up pretty much right away.

Which is a shame, because the gameplay was fucking tight as hell. I loved that game. It could have been the next Destiny if they'd just kept it around long enough. The only reason it was received so poorly in the first place was because the internet hate machine didn't have enough fodder that month.

in reply to Scrubbles
Bioware has been dead to me since they got bought by EA anyway. All this means is that if they ever made a Jade Empire 2, it's gonna be bland and stupid.
Esta entrada fue editada (miércoles, 21 de octubre de 2026, 21:02)
in reply to BigBananaDealer

Lol. They already pull in $17B/yr, ~4B/yr profit, ~70% market share, <400 employees.... Privately held...

Gabe already has >9B himself.

Why would they sell?

Sure, some day they may enshitify, but by the time that happens, I'll be able to reverse engineer and recompile my STEAM library on my home server.

in reply to Lushed_Lungfish

That was my last experience with the Mass Effect setting and it felt like a very appropriate sendoff.

I was initially looking forward to Andromeda, but I'm glad I waited for the reviews. I would have been disappointed if that was my last Mass Effect experience.

in reply to Scrubbles
EA has bought so many good game studios and forced them to make shitty games and then closed those studios because the shit games that they forced them to make didn't turn a profit, i played Red Alert 2 so much and had so much fun and knowing we'll never get anything like that again makes me want to launch all these life sucking corporate ghouls into the void.
in reply to Eternal192

I just replayed all of the mass effect games and dragonage games about a year or 2 ago, once Saudi Arabia bought EA I was like, welp, there goes that. (PIF can suck my DIF)

Now with Bioware being closed, glimmer of hope a new powerhouse independent studio pops up.

in reply to FordBeeblebrox
I've eventually managed to play it through to the end, there's some enjoyment but it's such a forgettable experience to me. Maybe I've misunderstood it, one day i'll give it another go. It has very little to do with the original trilogy, in anything except name and some references. Combat isn't too bad but the story is not that compelling
in reply to FordBeeblebrox

It has a different feel than 3 does, but I liked it as it's own thing.

I definitely recall the ship bugged me a little more, the beginning you're forced to navigate it and that bugged me. There are a lot of good aspects to it. If you like the series it definitely deserves a play. When I was playing and reading reviews I felt many reviews were overly critical and not really accurate. More popular to bash it, etc.

in reply to PattyMcB
I spent so much time modding Generals and it was fun BUT it had a problem that's present even today that if you play longer it would get slower and slower and eventually crash, there might be a fix but i haven't bothered to check for the past 20 years.
in reply to ApollosArrow
EA offered them a ton of money 100 mil or something in the ballpark and they thought they could keep going as before but with EAs corporate boot on their throats they fell apart, unhinged demands, release dates that required a ton of overtime, etc., just typical corporate assholes destroying a team that created some of the most iconic strategy games to date.
in reply to Eternal192
As an FYI, I've been having a blast with Tempest Rising, it's not exactly like Red Alert but it's definitely got that old school C&C vibe to it.
in reply to MinnesotaGoddam
You're right, it's good to separate the individual from the group. We obviously shouldn't specifically blame every single person in that age group, but we know the generation, in general, took most of the wealth and opportunity, then pulled the ladder up behind them, denying it to the following generations. They also voted for most of the current politicians and policies that are keeping inequality high.
in reply to Scrubbles
Sounds like EA is doubling down on live service games, Star Wars and sports. Not surprising, the industry has been moving away from the big AAA single player game culture for a long time. That might end up being an era that was linited to Millennials.
in reply to Ilandar

So much better game experience, but nowhere near the cash cow of people blowing money on cosmetics in live service games and pay to win. Even super low effort mobile games will frequently milk out way more cash.

Basically the good money is with low quality content, so good quality has to come out of enthusiasm for gaming, not from board rooms.

in reply to Scrubbles
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This meme was a prophecy.
Esta entrada fue editada (jueves, 22 de octubre de 2026, 12:21)
in reply to nullspace
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in reply to Scrubbles

Aw man. Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect, and OG Dragon Age saw me through some of my formative gaming years and it’s been a shame to watch since. I didn’t even bother with Veilguard.

Larian is our big shining hope for this kind of game now, it seems.

in reply to ooo_shiny
Check out Owlcat's new Expanse game, Osiris Reborn. It's an obvious love letter to everything about the Mass Effect series, while also being the best looking video game adaptation of the Expanse yet.
in reply to Voroxpete
Thanks for the recommendation. I’m not familiar with the Expanse but I’ll keep an eye on the reviews! My windows gaming days are over but if the Xbox version is good I might pick it up.
in reply to SippyCup
The TV show is also great once you get through the first half of the first season, which is sloooow. The rest is amazing though, I actually prefer some aspects of it over the books (like introducing Avasarala earlier and giving Bobbie more to do).
in reply to Scrubbles

I suspected this would happen after the Saudi take-over. I haven't played Veilguard, but i did see something about a non-binary character. I'd be very surprised if the saudi's funded something progressive like that, even if it was poorly executed from what i've seen.

Edit: Called it.


Mass Effect 5 studio was reportedly told to tone down inclusivity by EA after Saudi Arabia buyout, former BioWare dev alleges, "so as to not cause offense"


Because an entire race of Blue Polysexual Mono-Gender females only able to birth other females didn't seem to click very well with the Saudis.


Esta entrada fue editada (jueves, 29 de octubre de 2026, 6:01)