in reply to stumu415

I used to upgrade every 2 years until I got an iPhone 15 Pro. I was going to ride or die with my 13 mini but I really wanted to get all my devices on usb-c. I splurged on my current phone with the intention to keep it for a long time. Going on 3 years now.

I used to go hard on the androids with rooting and customizing. I’ve since resigned myself to wanting a phone that “just works.”

Esta entrada fue editada (domingo, 20 de septiembre de 2026, 3:16)
in reply to disregardable
This depends a lot on the person. There's plenty of rich people that earned it rather than being born into it, and still live frugally. I work at a big tech company and there's plenty of people with mid to high six figure salaries that still use coupons, keep their phone for 4-5 years, and save as much money as they can. Living well within your means on a higher salary lets you retire early, and for some people that's worth more than any frivolous spending.
in reply to Earthwormjim91
I'm not sure about Apple, but Samsung has some ridiculously good trade-in offers sometimes. My wife upgraded from an S21 Ultra to an S26 Ultra this year, and got something like $250 for trading in her old phone. About the same as what they were selling for on eBay. I've seen them offer $600+ for last year's model.
in reply to dan

Apple does too.

If I wanted to get a new phone this year, I could trade my 17 pro max in and their current trade is $885, and I think it was $1400 msrp when I bought it. So I’d have actually paid $515 or something like that.

I also traded in my 15 pro max when I got the 17 and they gave me $520 on it after 2 years. And I think I actually got that one free on our phone plan when we switched. So really I got a free 15, which they then gave me $515 for, taking the 17 down to $879, which is less than what they’d give me today for it.

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in reply to ☂️-
Never had any success trying to replace an iPhone battery. Tried twice through the alleged Genius Store, and both times with an aftermarket supplier. Failed to have any success. Phones were an 8 and an X. Maybe in other markets, but had no luck in Australia
in reply to ChristchurchAsshole

Depends on the repair. Never used to be possible to even get an aftermarket screen, although you can now. I have walked in with a broken screen on a current model phone to be told it can’t be fixed and they would use it as a trade in.

Fortunately, you can now get genuine parts from third parties.

A third party repair of a screen is about $175. Apple is over $250. Last time I had it quoted was a couple of years ago though, so YMMV.

in reply to ☂️-

Judgemental much? Stop being a dick. You need to understand that every body has reasons for doing the things they do, and has different experiences.

Up until 2021, I wasn’t allowed an android device for work. I got, and still get, an allowance for bringing my own device.

Obviously, you have never had to have an apple device repaired in Australia.

in reply to stumu415
I stopped buying new phones when I started running GrapheneOS on my phone. I bought a used pixel 8 thinking it would be supported by Google for 8 years. Needless to say I greatly underestimated Google doing evil things and not being absolute obstinate weasels on abiding by the GPL. Currently looking for options on running a cheap Linux phone to weigh what to swap to in the future.
in reply to stumu415

I currently have a refurbished Pixel 8 (chosen because it's the oldest phone recommended by GrapheneOS). I got it less than a year ago when my previous phone (a refurbished Pixel 7) started having screen problems. I got that one a few years before, when my refurbished Pixel 6 fell out of my pocket in a parking lot and got driven over by a car.

If it weren't for breakages and Graphene system requirements (for security features, not performance), I'd probably still be using the Pixel 6, if not some phone I had even before that. It's been at least half a decade or so since the last time I felt like upgrading because my phone wasn't good enough.

in reply to stumu415

When the old one is no longer suitable for use as a primary phone:

  • Nexus 5 - broke the screen. Actually still mostly works to this day, and I have Android 9 on it.
  • Sony X Compact - small onboard storage, Android's crappy SD card support, and a lack of quality third-party ROMs after official support ended shortened this one's service life.
  • Pixel 4a - current phone, don't want to "upgrade" to something that's bigger and doesn't have a headphone jack, mildly annoyed the fingerprint sensor broke.
in reply to stumu415

Just smashed my iphone 11 in a derailer, which is a railroad related accident.

I had bought it used about 8 years ago, the iPhone 11, and took the opportunity to spend 500$ on a pixel 10a and put graphene OS on it.

Funny story: I set up the duress password, and afterwards, was setting up new users. Well one of the new users I setup us3d the same pin as as the duress password! D'Oh! Anyways... The duress pin works! Had to go to cricket to implement a new esim! Lol.

Love the phone tho!

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in reply to stumu415
I use a phone till it stops working. Usually get 3-4 years out of it. I usually will buy a refurbished "flagship" phone from the previous year or two. I like a big screen and lots of memory. I'm currently using a pixel 9pro xl. It's fine. I like the idea of using graphene, but haven't yet summoned the energy to do it.

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in reply to stumu415

A few phones back I started getting a second hand flagdhip phone every 3-4 years, I think it's well worth the flagship second hand 1 year old model instead of the mid range phones I used to get for the same price.

Plus the last couple have been pixels for GraphineOS, so it's nice to not be directly handingb Google money.

in reply to stumu415

When I developed for Android: every two or three years or so:
- HTC Magic
- Nexus One (one year later, but was gifted it by Google)
- Nexus 4
- Nexus 6 pro

At that point I changed jobs and had to pay for my own phone. Also, became a parent.
- Samsung Galaxy s8 - cracked the screen after half a year in a child-related incident. Kept going for a while.
- Samsung galaxy s10 - cracked the screen quite fast in a sleep deprivation related incident.
- Google Pixel Pro 7 (At this point I started wrapping my phone in mous.
- Samsung Galaxy S26 ultra (I won this in a competition, but didn't need to replace my old phone)

So... I never felt like I needed to chase new features after I stopped working with android development, and really, the wild development rush pretty much stopped, but I kept changing phones because I kept breaking them all of a sudden.

Esta entrada fue editada (domingo, 20 de septiembre de 2026, 5:44)
in reply to stumu415

i haven't bought a new phone for decade+.

daily driver is a 2013 phone. i do have newer phones i got from family members that stopped using them, but to me they're less comfortable than my old phone. gonna keep it till it breaks or Y2038 hits

Esta entrada fue editada (domingo, 20 de septiembre de 2026, 6:21)
in reply to stumu415
I bought a new phone every year, until i bought the Oneplus 5, in 2017. Until then, every new Phone had a "wow"-effect, big differeces in speed, camera, ...
Right around that time, phones have gotten so good, that i stopped buying new ones, there is no need anymore. You buy a new phone and the camera is 5% better, you wont see that. I now buy new, when the Phone doesnt get Updates. Currently on Fairphone 4, running Lineage OS. Next Phone will probably be a Fairphone again.
in reply to stumu415

Normally I keep a phone until severe hardware failure (spicy pillow, broken digitizer, not charging...)

The only thing that has gotten me to upgrade was the Boox Palma 2 Pro for it's e-ink display specifically, due to eyestrain from reading on LCD, and my Galaxy A23 5G i received as a gift having its display start falling out (and fear of future storage/ram prices)

(technically almost a phone due SIMs only being supported for mobile data, but i use a flip phone for SIM-based calls/sms anyway)

in reply to stumu415
I think if I had the money to burn, as much as there's distaste for the practice, I probably WOULD replace my phone frequently, or maybe at least as often as it takes my fancy or I hear about one that sounds cool. It's nice having cool new shit. But, I've never had that kind of money to burn and the reality is there's something weirdly idiosyncratic and personal to what makes a 'good' phone nowadays when there's so little to separate them and they're all pretty much amazing magical sci-fi devices so it's always going to be 4 years minimum. Typically what ends up killing the marriage is that I've accidentally managed to smash the poor thing somehow, that's even when I've actually ended up hating the thing. I'm just never going to waste the thing I paid for even when it turned out to be a bad buy.
in reply to stumu415
I buy a phone when it runs into a problem I'm not easily able to deal with. Last upgrade was 5 years ago when the battery of my last phone was puffed up. IIRC getting a spare + tools to install it were going to cost about 2/3 as much as a new phone. Ideally it would last longer but it is what it is.
in reply to stumu415

My smartphone progression was as follows
- Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini (Don't remember when I got this one. I wish companies still made phones this small...)
- Huawei P9 Lite (Bought in 2016 I think)
- Xiaomi Mi 9T (Bought in 2019)
- Google Pixel 7 (Bought in 2023)

So far, none of my phones had to be replaced due to hardware failure or damage luckily. The S3 Mini simply got too old. When I upgraded, it could not even play a Youtube video in the app without lagging due to severe RAM limitations. I remember having a screenshot of the RAM usage that said I had less than a MiB of RAM remaining at some point.

My P9 lite was fine. At some point my grandmother decided she wanted a smartphone though and instead of buying a new one for herself she told me to upgrade and give her the old one. When that one got to slow for her, the cycle repeated with me giving her my Xiaomi Mi 9T and upgrading to the Pixel 7 which I use to this day.

in reply to stumu415

I have a phone in my house that is bordering on ten years, I believe. Still useable.

I have another that is reaching six years old.

The one I'm personally using currently is reaching three and will replace one of those I previously mentioned.

I intend to get a de-googled phone soon and expect that to last at least eight years.

in reply to stumu415

i swear the apple v android articles are fodder pumped out by media companies because it’s easy ad money.

don’t get me wrong, conspicuous consumption has ruined some people’s ability to own their identity but outside of brand fanaticism surely “normal” customers purchase phones based on when they need it. When do you buy bread? Typically when you want to eat something which has bread.

perhaps not the point of the original question but surely we’re getting beyond the point of being baited by low-quality online content.

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in reply to stumu415

I will use it until it stops being viable. This used to mean "until the battery dies", but I've also swapped batteries in phones not designed for it, and still had to get a new one as the batteries available weren't OEM and so bad they basically didn't work despite being new. Like phone always just turns off at like 40% charge. That isn't "viable" in my eyes.

Now I've got a Fairphone 5. It's only been a few years, but I'm planning on 10+ years if I can make it happen. In theory some new feature could get me to buy one sooner, but I highly doubt it. Hasn't happened in the past either.

in reply to stumu415

Used to buy one every two years or so, either to upgrade or they had failed in some way. Used to spend $1000+ on them too, which is ridiculous looking back with how often they broke.

Had a $2000 phone stop charging and they refused to service it without a huge fee and shipping it oversees. (Asus for anyone wondering. I've fully gone off the brand since then. Very overpriced with terrible customer service.)

I was waiting for a call back after a job interview so I went and bought whatever cheap phone I could get and ended up with an oppo. That was in 2019 and it's still going perfectly fine. Phones haven't innovated at all since then and with how much they cost I kind of just don't care to upgrade.

in reply to stumu415
When the cost of repair, usually the screen, exceeds the used price of the phone. I'm currently on a pixel 6a with a broken screen and it's at that point now, think it's been 4 years and 3 screens. On screen broke falling from the sofa on to the carpet, which was annoying as it had no external damage
in reply to stumu415

5 years the last one.

The hardware, including battery, worked great. But it has been lacking updates for some years and I'm worried about vulnerabilities. LineageOS was also not available for this phone.

I bought a phone with 7 years updates and my initial intention is keeping it for 7 years. More if an stable and secure version of LineageOS is available down the line.

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in reply to stumu415
Every other day! I just can't help myself! A new model is released and the hype machine starts up; updates are released to downgrade performance on older models--I just wag my tail non-stop! It's so exciting! Those flashy lights and colours! Ooooo! This money belongs in their wallets and everyone's going to get a hold them! And I tell myself pathetic lies: oh, the battery can't be replaced... if only it had screws... it's way too hard to heart up glue and put a new battery in. Besides--all my friends are going into debt too! Plus those new features: it can make phone calls and text! Look! E-mail access too!
in reply to PetteriPano

I came here ready to say "between 2 and 3 years on average" but after seeing your message I decided to count how many phones I've had and I'm disappointed to see I got to 21 phones in 23 years.

3 phones were stolen; 2 were complete trash that I regretted buying; 1 got destroyed within 2 months of purchase. 1 was a dumb phone I needed as an extra at one point. 1 was a free upgrade I got for work.

For a while I was just too cheap with the phones I was buying. Other than the Nokia Lumias, those cheap phones always had some kind of issue that would drive me insane after a while. They also didn't really work well for very long so I "had to" change more often. Once I started paying more for phones (like $200) I started keeping them longer too. I only recently replaced my 2021 phone.

in reply to stumu415
I buy a new one when my current one is having so many problems it's hard to ignore. I didn't get a smartphone till 2020. Before then it was cheap pay-as-you-go phones. That phone was a moto g power and I had it till last year when it was getting to be too slow and the screen shattered when dropping it on my way out of work. I got a pixel 10 since my phone plan gave a massive discount on it.
in reply to stumu415
Until it is entirely unusable. My last phone I had for years after it stopped being supported, it would hardly charge, the screen was totally shattered, and I was still using it up until it bricked itself. I'll probably see if I can convert my current GOS phone into a Linux phone after GOS stops supporting it, for security reasons to use a supported OS, but I want to minimise my contribution to e-waste.
in reply to stumu415
Esta entrada fue editada (domingo, 20 de septiembre de 2026, 14:10)
in reply to stumu415
About 5 years. I don't care much about the canera. I went from a note 20 Ultra to getting a red magic 11 pro late last year. It has pretty bad cameras but everything else is awesome and the battery will probably be what will eventually make me upgrade again. Just seeing how long it will last and how hard a time it will be to get a hold of a replacement battery. I know how to repair and work on phones and electronics, so doing repairs and getting to the battery isn't much of a challenge for myself, but getting batteries that aren't utter trash is a lot harder.
in reply to stumu415

When it dies or becomes obsolete (~5 years)

I think it's a tech fanboys rather than Apple fanboys that change it every year : one can observe the same modus operandi for Samsung.

Most Apple users will keep their device for a while, just as most android users. Those that change tend to value peer recognition above eveything else and having the latest gadget is a way to achieve that goal.

in reply to 🧟‍♂️ Cadaver

It keeps surprising me that in the US you are so limited in choice. Most people in this thread only refer to Apple or Samsung because that is the choice they have. I'm in China currently and Apple is not even in the top 5 and Samsung has no presence here at all in the phone market.

But I agree with you. The tech fanboys are the same. Whenever Xiaomi for example, releases a new model, it sells out in one day.

Like the iPhone fold, will barely make a dent here because all other local brands have folds that are much better and are already in their 5th iterations. The Xiaomi 18 fold sold 36. 000 units in its first day.

in reply to stumu415
i strategically bought a cheap s20 for ~80$ to wait some time for the market to be better. ~6 months later i bought a waay better phone, for a good price&quality.
the s20 had a huge black spot of broken pixels.
i still use it (its in my packpack RN). decent for extra storage or even LLM(slm). but the screen is flickering so i need to get the screen replaced ..etc
in reply to stumu415

Had my last smartphone, Honor 20, for 6 years, it didn't get any safety updates for the last 3.. Bought a refurbished iPhone 2 years ago, I will either use that until the safety updates stop or until I ragequit myself out of the modern society. Whichever happens sooner, following the ID laws and all.

But my main phone is a dumb Nokia I found from the trash. I don't see it breaking and they do sell aftermarket batteries still, so no issues. Can call mom and so on.

Esta entrada fue editada (lunes, 21 de septiembre de 2026, 3:26)
in reply to stumu415

Every 4 to 6 years; using Iphone.

Usually wait for some reason to change, which is almost always unrelated to features on new phones. Either the phone breaks, gets lost or there is something specific I want which my phone doesn't have. Plan to get a new one this year to get a bigger screen, otherwise would have kept the existing one which works perfectly fine, does everything I need and is going on 6 years without any issues.

in reply to stumu415
Apple fanboys, buy a new phone every year when the new one comes out


The 'new phone every year' types are usually on a contract with their carrier where they get the latest model every x amount of months/years. Most aren't buying it outright

I keep my phones for 5-7 years. Generally once it stops receiving security updates I'll get a new one